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5th
Oct 2017
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@codemasher
Oct 05 2017 00:08
chillerlan\GW2DB\Updaters\UpdaterException: failed to get /v2/colors in C:\amp\htdocs\gw2-database\src\Updaters\UpdaterAbstract.php on line 73
huh?
/v2/colors is disabled
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@codemasher
Oct 05 2017 00:08
oh
because the backend call crashes the server
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@codemasher
Oct 05 2017 00:08
eww
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@codemasher
Oct 05 2017 01:03
{"name":"Caudecus's Manor Waypoint","type":"waypoint","floor":4,"coord":[13290.799999999999,11927.299999999999],"id":825
Darqam
@Darqam
Oct 05 2017 03:46
I've also not seen any new items with the unique flag I can't confirm 100% that it's missing, but some people seem to be saying some trinkets are unique while the API is not reflecting it. Issue on the API or people end?
https://api.guildwars2.com/v2/items/82795 this is a rather amusing item... including it's icon
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Oct 05 2017 04:12
@lye, regarding :point_up: 3 oktober 2017 00:43
can't you manually take 7, 8, 9 and shrink them for now? it's just two tiles
it looks so weird when you zoom out now :(
also, with these black borders, this is the time to have .png tiles :P
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 05:06
Huh that's a cool item
Enno G.
@SchoolGuy
Oct 05 2017 05:17
Indeed because I don't know how your German is I will translate it for you: Videowiederholung = Videorepetition
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 05:19
It shows as English for any browsers configured that way
Enno G.
@SchoolGuy
Oct 05 2017 05:22
Really? I thougt you need e.g. the ?lang=β€œdeβ€œ argument for this?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Oct 05 2017 05:23
the api accepts the Accept-Language header too right?
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 05:23
Yeah
If your browser is configured in a different language, it'll usually send that header for you
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 05:23
πŸ‘€
Handy
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Oct 05 2017 05:24
i honestly forgot about it until now
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Oct 05 2017 06:30
@Archomeda :point_up: October 5, 2017 5:12 AM plus i totally drew the two tiles already - :point_up: October 3, 2017 12:02 AM - so it's just uploading to the server
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Oct 05 2017 13:31
oh, that's what those images are
i didn't recognize them -_-
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Oct 05 2017 17:18
ehm, were the tiles fixed or not?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Oct 05 2017 17:25

because it seems it's not :(

1/1/4/1/31/1/4/2/31/1/4/3/31/1/4/4/31/1/4/5/31/1/4/6/31/1/4/7/3

oh... that should be 1 line lol
above tiles are from 1/1/4/1/3 to 1/1/4/7/3
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Oct 05 2017 17:26
give me directions from nearest city..
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Oct 05 2017 17:27
just view the interactive map on https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Harathi_Hinterlands
and go up
oh, 1/1/4/9/3 seems corrupted too
oh, and zoom level 4
it is corrupted for you too right? otherwise something is really wrong with caching on my end
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Oct 05 2017 17:38
corruption in a different place to last time apparently
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Oct 05 2017 18:00
same even**
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Oct 05 2017 18:02
elder dragons at it again
more seriously, out of memory bounds? the colors seem kinda like taking a screenshot of random memory in Xorg
(like when you have two screens with different resolutions)
what
@ChieftainAlex i am upset
is that actually the same place
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Oct 05 2017 19:01
yes
well. i am baffled.
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Oct 05 2017 19:02
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Oct 05 2017 19:24
image.png
an exotic trophy
now I have seen all, dear anet, can I delete this
why would you delete such a perfect item
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Oct 05 2017 19:44
watch it, you'll make me hoard it
that should be your default
I've still got like
blueprints for the scarlet backpieces
and lost heirlooms
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Oct 05 2017 19:45
do you guys still have those items that spawns horrible quality videos of ingame cinematics?
i don't know what you're referring to, but it sounds like something you had to put effort into acquiring
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Oct 05 2017 19:46
image.png
yep
those were expensive so I was like "lol"
i'm not sure why anyone would buy that
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Oct 05 2017 19:46
lol
felt the same way about the city portals too
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Oct 05 2017 19:46
especially since the video it shows is like an ultra compressed version of the real thing
isn't zephyr sanctum gone forever in the lore
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Oct 05 2017 19:47
there's another one, pretty sure, that spawns a cinematic
so it's like a nice memorial of a place you'll never go again
because it got destroyed
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Oct 05 2017 19:47
can't remember the name thouhg
well it didn't get destroyed
the ship got destroyed
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Oct 05 2017 19:47
The Sanctum was where they docked
sure
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Oct 05 2017 19:47
but with no ship, yeah
that's like saying lion's arch didn't get destroyed
just all the buildings
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Oct 05 2017 19:47
LOL
(rip old lion's arch)
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Oct 05 2017 19:48
oh man, I did a new ele for POF to be whisper and balthazar as god
so I replayed in the old LA
memories
oh man I forgot that it's still in the story missions
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Oct 05 2017 19:48
yeah!
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Oct 05 2017 20:15
foudn that other cinematic item
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@codemasher
Oct 05 2017 20:18
loved that lgbtq propaganda (as gamergaters would call it)
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 20:53
@lye how many people are working on the apis these days?
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 20:54
0.5
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 20:54
:grimacing:
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 20:55
afaik lye is the only one, and he's wrapped up in management
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 20:55
yeah, that sucks
need some fresh blood to the apis :clap:
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 20:55
XD
oh wait
oh, it's arena.net/#careers
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 20:56
nuh uh u go apply
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 20:57
man I wish
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 20:57
i just got a job at atlassian, i cant maanng !
ill live through you, i believe in you
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 20:57
2.5 hour commute one way tho
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 20:58
time to move
granted ur closer than me (in australia) : P
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 20:58
someday
but besides that, I really don't have the qualifications for web dev
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 20:59
all you need is PASSION
and to be not bad
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 21:00
I mean, my main problem holding me back from web dev is creativity/inspiration
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:00
:worried:
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 21:01
I think I could make a website great if someone gave me a full writeup of what it does, and images of what it should look like
but I can't design
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:02
ohh thats fine
dw
unless youre in a startup where you need to wear multiple hats, generally you'll always have designers and UX working with you
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 21:05
tempted to go back to that code school thingy
had a sort of "capstone" project to write a blog from scratch
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:06
:D

how many people are working on the apis these days?

@madou the API is mostly C++ but under the web umbrella

I'm the only one on the web team that knows C++, but I'm also the team lead now
so it's like 10% of a dev working on API stuff
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:12
yeah that sucks.
It's my fault really
I never took the time to gather data for a business case for a dedicated API dev
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:13
hope you guys find a way to get more throughput :) apis are great! but still need them to be continually developed!
This is the last week for awhile that I can dedicate to API stuff, unfortunately
might have a couple of free days next week to continue to clean up issues
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:13
:(
but the reqs for an API dev would be super specific and expensive :(
so the budget argument would be pretty hard
ultimately it comes down to -- how can we quantify API earnings to offset the expense of development
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:14
the c++ stuff is mainly the interop with the game backing data right
mostly yeah
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 21:14
hire me on a contractor basis \o/
it's half interpreting gameplay formats (content and character blobs) and half javascript frontend bits that interact with distributed systems
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Oct 05 2017 21:15
:(
@Eearslya I can swing interns, but those only make $15/hour without benefits
Without quantification I can't do a full time engineering position
If you have ideas for how to justify a FTE position for API work I'm all asura
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 21:16
"only"
Do you make less than $15/hour?
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 21:16
No, mine is higher, but it's not by much
If you don't mind the commute I can start talking with HR
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 21:16
see that's the problem
I do
D:
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:17
SO CLOSE TO HAPPENING
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Oct 05 2017 21:17
:(
To be fair it's a nasty commute
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:17
yeah its hard to justify this i guess lye. how would you ever start? what metrics would you use?
from renton -> bellevue it's opposite in the direction of traffic thankfully
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 21:17
I-5 to Auburn is already bad
but south of renton I dunno
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 21:17
bellevue more than doubles it
yeahhhh I feel like the puyallup area is always bad
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:17
theres a ton of fansites popping up, a load of them using the embeds too (so its easy to buy in to creating a site that lists build meta and stuff)
nah we're like in factoria
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 21:18
it's more Fife that fucks up I-5
I-5 between renton-factoria isn't normally bad northbound in the mornings (southbound in the evenings)
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 21:18
that stretch in front of the EQC
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:18
but does that generate more revenue, more fresh users, for arenanet? hard to say
does the API generate more fresh users?
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:18
the api can't. but the people consuming the api data, maybe
I just don't have any data about API usage/user or anything to say that the API makes us money (e.g. via retention)
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:18
but how would you ever figure that out?
I never figured it out
there's probably a way that eludes me
A weak correlation between API usage and account spending would probably be enough
but it's super hard to track that data
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 21:20
such a shame you guys don't do remote
I integrated libpq into our web stack, so theoretically I can start tracking per-user API usage in postgresql
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:20
yeah.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Oct 05 2017 21:20
hmm, that's difficult
But drawing the right correlations is going to be tricky
anyway, I've got a meeting in 10 minutes that I'm unprepared for, so...
gonna do stuff
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Oct 05 2017 21:20
D:
gl
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:20
alright, all the best lye
:heart:
Quaggan BooOOoot
@QuagganBooOOoot
Oct 05 2017 21:20
:heart:
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 21:20
whee
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:20
thanks for the quick chat
I'm always around 30% of the time
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Oct 05 2017 21:21
always
30%
:P
that's the joke
@Eearslya if you change your mind on commute issues lemme know
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Oct 05 2017 21:22
i know :)
interns count towards budget but not headcount limitations
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Oct 05 2017 21:22
let me know whenever you allow people to work remotely from EU
i can probably wait a long time for that
will do -- but probably won't happen in the next decade
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:22
he can wait
:shipit:
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:24
heh heh heh
BoyC
@BoyC
Oct 05 2017 21:29
we have one just like that in our office :D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Oct 05 2017 21:32
how long did he wait?
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:33
woo getting close to finishing ripping out stuff: https://madou.github.io/armory-component-ui
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@codemasher
Oct 05 2017 21:38
so much effort to cut the maps into pieces and we go and glue them back together https://smiley.codes/maps/for/gw2/89f692589fe6ce8f82cf75828b0821d3.png
Michael Dougall
@madou
Oct 05 2017 21:41
hehe
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Oct 05 2017 21:43
I mean...the commute is only 2 buses for 2 hours if I went that way; but it's a little difficult to justify a drop in pay and benefits.
I don't hate where I am now, either; I just wish I could help with the API! I'd do it for free in the evenings if only they'd allow it
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Oct 05 2017 22:17
@codemasher - from the api tiles or ingame?
i kinda wish I could bot glue them from ingame ><
gotta map complete the other 3 desert maps before i can stick them up on the wiki in full API boundary glory
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@codemasher
Oct 05 2017 22:18
just ask @rhoot for a tile extractor
:D
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Oct 05 2017 22:36
yeah but i need the ingame area labels for the wiki ;)
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@codemasher
Oct 05 2017 23:43
thanks gitter for not updating the preview
someone had the ingame map font as .ttf or so, right?
anyone plz? :D
(have fun creating imagemaps... :D)