These are chat archives for arenanet/api-cdi

13th
Dec 2017
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Dec 13 2017 00:30
I still like the appearance of spidy after all this time, it just hasn't been updated since 2015...
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 00:33
just removing the bg image doubles the fps when scrolling for me :S
David Reeß
@queicherius
Dec 13 2017 00:36
@Archomeda @darthmaim It's a bit slow because that page is super SUPER old
And it loads the entirety of items when you search >_>
I've wanted to fix that since forever
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 00:37
story of my life :P
so much legacy code everywhere
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Dec 13 2017 00:38
apparently if you try to view that url whilst not logged into gw2e, it loads the form, then realises you're not logged in and goes to the login bit
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 00:38
ah right :(
David Reeß
@queicherius
Dec 13 2017 00:38
Yeah that page is also only available for logged in users, because of the TP tracking that required a login
Something else I wanted to change forever :D
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Dec 13 2017 00:38
assume my potato is slower than yours which is why i can see that :<
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 00:39
isn't it great when you're the only developer working on such a big project :(
we still <3 you for it though @queicherius
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Dec 13 2017 00:39
just delete some features :shipit:
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 00:40
@ChieftainAlex as long as the crafting stays, it's probably one of the features i use the most
:>
speaking of features, does anyone know of a site that shows cheap skins to unlock before opening any of the wardrobe unlocks?
David Reeß
@queicherius
Dec 13 2017 00:46
@Archomeda It used to be not a big deal, but now this "work" thing wants most of my time for some reason
And technically I'm not the only person working on it, I get static data from other people (incl. the wiki), which used to be one of the major time sinks, and some code is open so I got a few small contributions. Sadly that stopped again due to time constraints (on the contributors side). It always boils down to time :(
I actually deleted some obscure features a few months ago, so far nobody noticed :D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 00:50
:(
@darthmaim hmm, it also unlocks a bunch of karma items i think... i'll just have to sift through it then i guess
oh god, these endless cloth tonics are expensive >_>
David Reeß
@queicherius
Dec 13 2017 00:52
Also recently a whole lot of time is support work (lost accounts/missing passwords/"how do i api"), probably due to pepole coming back for PoF
I even wrote a little support tool for that :D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 00:53
hire your helpers on discord for voluntary support work :>
David Reeß
@queicherius
Dec 13 2017 00:54
I reset passwords directly in the DB, so can't really do that (and I dont want to waste time on a admin interface)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 00:54
hmm, i do hope you've made some sort of script to do that :)
And the copy/paste output is valid HTML to paste into Gmail :D Because I used to have a file to copy/paste but then had to manually link the PW reset page
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 00:57
nice
even more fancy than i would have thought of
David Reeß
@queicherius
Dec 13 2017 00:59
It's pretty neat, takes templates like this and generates the interface. Not that impressive, but very handy. :D
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 01:00
Nice
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 01:43
there's at least a hundred karma skins i've yet to unlock >_>
smiley
@codemasher
Dec 13 2017 02:16
hello, sorry to interrupt but y'all need this game http://store.steampowered.com/app/723270
djlstvn
@djlstvn
Dec 13 2017 07:37
Hello all, I have a noob question: What do you think the simplest way to acquire the historical trading post prices, as complete as possible? Currently I believe I can download data collected by GW2Spidy via its API, but seemingly I can only do that item by item, which would take days even if GW2spidy doesn't ban me. Has anyone acquired a full database dumb from GW2Spidy or other TP sites before? Or am I missing something?...
okay, and I misspelled dump... :P
Werdes
@werdes
Dec 13 2017 08:56
@djlstvn you could talk to @queicherius, i think gw2e has some api functions. but please don't murder that api
David Reeß
@queicherius
Dec 13 2017 11:26
gw2e doesnt hold price history, it only displays the one from the spidy api
I have been wanting to consolidate all the different sites' data points and add my own, but time
djlstvn
@djlstvn
Dec 13 2017 13:22
@werdes @queicherius Thanks for the replies! I tried to contact Ruben a while ago but he's probably buried in other projects atm... BTW David, do you mean that gw2e also queries for full price histories periodically from spidy? If so may I ask how much flow (how often per item, for example) is appropriate?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 14:28
pretty sure he's referring to the individual item prices that the site shows, nothing server sided
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:31
api still hasn't whitelisted wintersday items?
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 14:32
nope
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:32
rip
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 14:32
its still missing ls items too
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:32
I know lye is now busy with bigger things and all. But I miss having him here :/
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 14:32
so don't expect the wintersday items any time soon
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:33
some raid items made it through, so I thought some LS did as well
but I guess I never explicitely checked, just assumed
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 14:33
yeah, some items made it
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:34
ah ok, just not all
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 14:34
:(
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:34
I was going to say I saw some of the new kralkatite ore things go through
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 14:34
most items for collections are missing for example
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:35
right
they need to hire a second api person already >.>
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 14:35
they just need to communicate about the api >_>
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 14:35
or just tell us whats happening
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 14:36
i don't like the api being stagnant if they are going to investigate if gameplay programmers can help updating the api
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:37
lol what did they say in the AMA "We'll keep working on it" or something like that
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 14:37
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:37
oh that seems interesting
Didn't know Lye was gone though
thought he just changed position
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 14:38
honestly, we still don't know for sure
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:38
ah gotcha.
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 14:38
he just disappeared one day
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:38
so I'm going to assume sick leave for now until proven otherwise
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 14:38
and lye wouldn't leave us behind just like that, at least that's what i like to believe
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:39
I think it happened once last year where he dropped off the face of the earth for 2-3 weeks I think?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 14:39
pretty sure it was a bit longer :P but yeah
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 14:39
at least we had pat back then telling us lye was gone
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 14:39
^
and he still did some whitelisting and fixing major issues that prevented the api from working correctly
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:40
so yeah, until told otherwise, I will assume it's a similar temporary abscence... which still sucks mind you but oh well
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 14:40
now the api is not even in maintenance mode :(
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:40
too bad that auto-whitelisting never got working properly
that sounded annoying to work out
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 14:41
yeah, probably too many sources where new items would pop up
collection items are definitely not auto whitelisted
not until someone acquires it
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 14:41
I think he deactivated most of the auto stuff for the HoT beta and never turned it back on again
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 14:41
that's also a possibility
either broken or preventing leaks
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:42
well I thought I remembered there being too many issues for it to be worth turning back on
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 14:42
i think he did mention it at some point he had to disable it
instead it's just going in queue, waiting for manual approval
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:43
I don't care about spoilers and can sign an NDA, let me whitelist, lol. That'd be the dream
but with the complete fuckery that is the leaks happening these days, I doubt that would happen
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 14:43
one thing i do hope regarding what SCW said, is that they might integrate the api better with the game itself... but that's just wishful thinking on my end
Werdes
@werdes
Dec 13 2017 14:44
@lye :cry:
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 14:44
eh, they won't do that anytime soon
the API is still broken since HoT
I just want someone to tell us whats happening
@StephaneWithAnE_twitter, can you maybe tell us anything about where lawton is and when/if he will be back?
Werdes
@werdes
Dec 13 2017 14:45
My fear with scw‘s mention is that there may be less communication and some game devs just puking malformed nonsense into endpoints with no way to contact them about it
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 14:45
yeah :(
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 14:46
:point_up: 11 december 2017 03:37 yup
Werdes
@werdes
Dec 13 2017 14:46
@darthmaim i doubt he would tell us
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 14:46
never hurts to ask
/shrug
Quaggan BooOOoot
@QuagganBooOOoot
Dec 13 2017 14:46
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 14:46
my uncompleted list of concerns
Werdes
@werdes
Dec 13 2017 14:47
Yet again time to put up the concerned faces :worried:
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:47
yeah news in general would be nice
Werdes
@werdes
Dec 13 2017 14:48
Letting this thing die would be horrible. Imagine the game without gw2e
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:48
I don't want to go back to the non-automated dark ages of manual interwikis on the wiki
and no way of fetching all ids
Werdes
@werdes
Dec 13 2017 14:48
That would make the upcry about mounts look like baby play
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 14:49
The gw2e discord is full with "Do we get feature X soon" - "Nope, not in the API yet"
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:49
:/
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 13 2017 14:49
at this rate you can just leave out "yet" :'(
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 14:51
Time to wait for GW3 with proper api support
BoyC
@BoyC
Dec 13 2017 15:45
i missed a bit of time (like the last 2 months)
only saw bits and pieces
what, we're now without lye?
Darqam
@Darqam
Dec 13 2017 15:47
for now it seems yeah
uncertain if it's permanent or not
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 15:59
last time lye was here was exactly 1 month ago :(
BoyC
@BoyC
Dec 13 2017 16:52
any word on where he disappeared?
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 13 2017 16:53
nope
David Reeß
@queicherius
Dec 13 2017 20:31
@djlstvn No, not full ones, just when someone requests an item it proxies/caches it from gw2spidy
Oh and we also (very rarely) go through the price history to find the last known sell price if an item has never been seen by gw2e before and is tradable but not on the TP