These are chat archives for arenanet/api-cdi

17th
Jan 2018
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 00:53
omg seriously that forum post
sorry for mentioning this, but sometimes i wonder how some people manage to get through life
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jan 17 2018 06:11

Thanks, they'd probably just ignore if posted properly anyway..

sigh x 2

Oh hey, I just realized I got my second star on the forums
\o/
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 06:32
:star: :star:
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jan 17 2018 06:37
sometimes I think people complain just for the sake of it
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 06:39
Lye, speaking of permissions, you were probably (half-)joking anyway, but did you see our suggestion a while back about that we can probably offer to help with tagging issues on the repo? Most likely just tagging by endpoint or something, but at least it makes it easier to navigate.
We have quite a lot of issues right now.
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jan 17 2018 06:41
Might actually help out a lot; and it's not like having access to the repo actually means anything code-wise...
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 07:48
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 11:47
Enno G.
@SchoolGuy
Jan 17 2018 11:50
For me as a first term computer scientist... What is a spread operator?
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 11:54
you can use it to destruct an array like so for example
$arr = [1, 2, 3];

foo(...$arr); // spreads $arr into 3 separate values

function foo($val1, $val2, $val3){
  var_dump(func_get_args()); // -> [1, 2, 3]
}
Enno G.
@SchoolGuy
Jan 17 2018 11:58
Thanks, now I get it :)
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 11:58
yay
another fun use case is to accept an arbitrary amount of parameters, like so
function foo($required_param, ...$additional_params){
  // do stuff
}
php, much like js accepts any number of additional arguments, but normally you would have to use func_get_args() or similar, but that way you can separate them into an array
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 12:50
yes, js has had the spread operator for quite a while though, but did you really have to post a tweet of a random person for that?
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 12:50
jake archibald isn't that random at all...
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 12:50
yes, for me he is
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 12:51
your opinion is noted to /dev/null
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 12:51
good to know
apparently we're talking to a brick wall when we're asking you to lessen the random tweets
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 12:52
block me
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 12:53
smiley, this is the GW2 API chat, not your personal twitter feed
understand that
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 12:54
fuck you, ok. as you can see someone was even interested about the topic of PROGRAMMING.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 12:54
so rude
i'm getting tired of your personal twitter feed all the time, and this tweet was a useless addition to your statement that js now has the object spread operator
you could've easily said it without that tweet
and i would be fine with it
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 12:56
i don't care about you and your oprinion and not even your feelings, ok.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 12:56
just retweet it whenever you come across a tweet you like instead
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Jan 17 2018 12:59
there is no reason to insult anyone just because we don't want you to spam your random links and tweets here
twitter is made for that
this is a chat about the API, and sure, related stuff we all are interested in
but not the spam you keep posting here
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 13:01
again: i know there are people who are interested in the stuff i share here. just because it does not interst you does not automatically remove my right to share.
learn to ignore
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 13:02
you have no right to immediately insult me
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 13:02
i do after you downtalked me.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 13:02
was i insulting you? no, then you have no right
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Jan 17 2018 13:03
this isn't the first time we tell you to take your spam somewhere else
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 13:03
who is "WE"
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Jan 17 2018 13:03
post it somewhere where we can block/filter it
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 13:03
if i counted correctly, this is the third time at least
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 13:04
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 13:04
at least Eearslya, darth and me, who frequent this chat
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Jan 17 2018 13:05
maybe the fact that out of 149 people in here no one reacts to 99% of your posted links should tell you no one is interested
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 13:05
who are you to judge or tell?
for real now
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 13:06
image.png
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 13:06
well, tell @lye your concerns
Werdes
@werdes
Jan 17 2018 13:48
Sorry to disappoint you, but i have no problem with those posts. Some were quite interesting iirc.
No reason to insult each other however
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 13:48
thank you!
also, for those who have figured out css iframe.twitter-tweet { display: none !important; }
Werdes
@werdes
Jan 17 2018 13:48
this chat went to 12 year old whatsapp group and back really fast
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 13:49
no really, it seems some people just don't get the concept of "sharing"
Werdes
@werdes
Jan 17 2018 13:50
Sorry @codemasher , but your behavior wasn‘t
Exemplary either
thanks gitter mobile for just sending unfinished messages :-1:
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 13:51
i never claimed to be an exemplary person. in contrary, i tend to tell someone when i'm pissed.
but i think i'm around for long enough for people to have figured me out...
derRAV3N
@derRAV3N
Jan 17 2018 14:12
I don't mind those messages either, either I'll look at them ignore them, but I'd rather have talk about api-related things. Also I'm not quite sure how much this helps lye, and f.e. I'd be quite disappointed if we'd lose this chat because we're spamming too much about kinda off-topic things :)
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 14:19
ok, i just scrolled through the chat of the past 2 weeks and there were like 5 shared tweets (and a couple more links) by me. a) all of these tweets were programming related, b) lye appreciates them, c) the fuck? 5 tweets?
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 14:28
just to be clear: telling someone to shut up is rude. if you don't like the content i share - that's ok, go along. but i'll not stop unless there's a rule or something in place that tells me not to.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 14:31
no smiley, your behavior is rude

[...] we're asking you to lessen the random tweets

i didn't tell you to "shut up"

smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 14:31
what? me reacting to you telling me to shut up is rude?
you fucking did
and i'll not further argue with you
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 14:31
read quotes
if you have a grudge against me, fine; but don't just insult me
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 14:32
meet me there
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 14:32
for asking you to lessen your tweets that add no extra value to the rest of your message
quote me where i said "shut up"
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 14:33
you don't seem to get it
or sould i use the word "free speech"?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 14:34
quote me where i said "shut up"
you're avoiding my question\
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 14:35
tell me what's your problem with 5 tweets in 2 weeks?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 14:35
i was quite reasonable to ask you to lessen your tweets when they add no value to the API, or the rest of your message; then you proceed to insult me; and it's not only this last tweet, but all of them in the past too
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 14:35
i can't help if you don't read the content
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 14:35
that's 5 more than me
you know you can just [description](twitter-link)?
because you don't seem to get it, but those embeds clutter 50% of my webpage and makes it hard to read chat, that's the reason why i asked it
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 14:37
this conversation is over
:point_up: January 25, 2017 12:58 AM
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 14:37
always funny when people have no arguments they tend to just end the conversation
/shrug
Quaggan BooOOoot
@QuagganBooOOoot
Jan 17 2018 14:37
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 14:37
tell me more
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 14:38
i'm not going into my IRL stories, because that's off-topic
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 14:39
see, that one last link proves all of my points - so where's yours?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 14:40
what are you implying?
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 14:45

you know you can just description

fun fact: pat told me explicitly not to because it defeats the purpose of the embeds

Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 14:45
pat isn't here anymore
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 14:45
and who are you again?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 14:46
let me rephrase it, every time you get asked to change something or get challenged in a discussion, you immediately feel personally attacked and start insulting them, don't provide any solid arguments to back up your own side and just back out of the discussion whenever you don't have anything solid to say; i'm really sorry, but there's no way to have a normal conversation with you
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 14:47
ok, it's really over now. this is still not your private chat as it is not mine either. let's @lye settle this because i'm seriously fed up with this kindergarten.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 14:49
if you could just respond normally about what i asked, instead of immediately insulting me, this wouldn't have happened really
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jan 17 2018 14:59
oh good lord
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 15:00
i'm really sorry that people have hundreds of new messages because of this
part of it is my fault obviously, so my apologies
Werdes
@werdes
Jan 17 2018 15:23
You could all calm down a little, how about that? Don‘t get your day ruined by such a neglegible topic
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 15:25
i'm still astounded how that even started
Quaggan BooOOoot
@QuagganBooOOoot
Jan 17 2018 15:46
New discussion in API Development:
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jan 17 2018 16:21
oh look, another wordpress security update for debian; what a surprise
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 16:22
for debian?
these guys sure aren't used to be that fast :D
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jan 17 2018 16:22
well, I get e-mails for debian security updates
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Jan 17 2018 17:56
So is there a way to block users from gitter?
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Jan 17 2018 20:19
@
Nice
Have aan at sign
Attempt 2: @Ee
Mobile gitter really is horrid. @Eearslya Sleiarion; Wordpress is an unauthenticated root shell which happens to contain a blog right
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jan 17 2018 20:22
XD
smiley
@codemasher
Jan 17 2018 20:22
it's the windows of the web
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Jan 17 2018 20:23
[quote not mine]
Also, helpful complete-my-at-sign-mentions-pop up-dialog sends messages when you try to press a name
And; gitters UI is a mess on my iPhone SE
So I blame gitter for my spam. I am innocent
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Jan 17 2018 20:28
I found anets way of hosting Wordpress quite elegant; just scrape it and don’t
Werdes
@werdes
Jan 17 2018 20:46
Well chrome for iOS justs sends
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 20:46
it is, no slow downs, no security issues, nothing; just a static website
Werdes
@werdes
Jan 17 2018 20:46
Once i open tab view
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 20:47
although the rss feed timestamps do get weird because of that, but meh
also, gitter itself is horrid; ever since the UI update a few years back
derRAV3N
@derRAV3N
Jan 17 2018 21:10
Oh, where is ANet using wordpress?
guildwars2.com
derRAV3N
@derRAV3N
Jan 17 2018 21:15
Ohhh really?
it's a static export of wordpress, yeah
derRAV3N
@derRAV3N
Jan 17 2018 21:17
Hah. Okay, well.. at least I never noticed it. (I don't do too much web dev anyway, soo..)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 22:10
oh, there's now a page to download the client without logging in
cool :+1:
and since when is this live? https://manual.guildwars2.com
derRAV3N
@derRAV3N
Jan 17 2018 22:14
Quite a while I think
Sometime after hot maybe even?
it was there at launch iirc
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 22:15
huh, never noticed; i just noticed it because of the download page
since it's linked there
derRAV3N
@derRAV3N
Jan 17 2018 22:16
Yea there was also a manual at launch, but I think it got reworked at some point
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 22:17
most likely, i just saw one of the videos about movement, and i see verdant brink unlocked there
but it has the old blurred map of lake doric
derRAV3N
@derRAV3N
Jan 17 2018 22:17
But yeah, there are quite a few things here and there that are there but no one notices it ever
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 22:18
it makes sense to put a link to that on the download page
(also to have the link there without having to log in)
Medyro
@Medyro
Jan 17 2018 22:19
afaik it's linked from within the Client even
Yep is (on the loginscreen at least)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 22:20
ah yeah, i see it now
Medyro
@Medyro
Jan 17 2018 22:20
grafik.png
derRAV3N
@derRAV3N
Jan 17 2018 22:20
Ohh man, seeing the old video, I still don't get why they normalized the margins between heal, utility, and elite-skills. Made so much more sense before and looked more thought through..
Medyro
@Medyro
Jan 17 2018 22:21
And i think im donwloading the whole client in english now because i change the language.. xD
What old Video do you mean Raven?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 22:22
i think they might have done that to streamline it between professions and elite specializations, since every new elite spec introduces a variant on the existing profession ui
might make it easier, dunno
derRAV3N
@derRAV3N
Jan 17 2018 22:22
I think all of the videos on the manual website have it
But still the heal is heal everywhere and the others stay too?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jan 17 2018 22:23
think so
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jan 17 2018 22:24
I look at the GW2 manifesto now and again and I always think they overestimated the "you feel important" feature XD
derRAV3N
@derRAV3N
Jan 17 2018 22:24
CouriusCharr, infact I should've written videos
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jan 17 2018 22:24
I always love the line "the boss you killed respawns 10 minutes later, it doesn't care that I'm there" and I'm like.. yeah, that's..how it works. XD
derRAV3N
@derRAV3N
Jan 17 2018 22:25
Yeeaah, the whole video is a meme^^