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Feb 2018
Silveress
@Silveress
Feb 22 2018 05:07
Ok am I going slightly mad?
on https://api.guildwars2.com/v2/commerce/prices there is id 86366 but when I check it up it is https://api.guildwars2.com/v2/items/86366 no such ID
the wiki says Fractal console
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 16:26
David Reeß
@queicherius
Feb 22 2018 16:31
I should re-sell server resources :thought_balloon:
David Reeß
@queicherius
Feb 22 2018 16:32
Nice 10x profit margin on that "entry" package :dollar:
Silveress
@Silveress
Feb 22 2018 16:32
do they ask for Mother Maidedn name as well?
Que the ID above have you any idea about that?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 16:32
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SiteGround they have to sustain their 400+ employees somehow i guess
Silveress
@Silveress
Feb 22 2018 16:33
how many of those are sales?
David Reeß
@queicherius
Feb 22 2018 16:34
Just a missing whitelist thing
I really wanna know how much money they make with that stuff
Silveress
@Silveress
Feb 22 2018 16:34
and here I was thinking the api was comprehensive
heh lye = lie
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 16:38
@queicherius how much do you pay for gw2e again?
David Reeß
@queicherius
Feb 22 2018 16:43
Just for raw hosting (excl. tooling) the last year I paid 75€/month on average
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 16:44
well then, and your site gets way, way, waaay more traffic than sc
David Reeß
@queicherius
Feb 22 2018 16:44
Traffic is not even an issue, static files dont cost anything :D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 16:45
yeah, they even have cloudflare as they say
David Reeß
@queicherius
Feb 22 2018 16:45
90% of the cost is backend statistic generation/account crawling
I have before successfully hosted gw2e on 1€/month
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 16:45
hahaha
i just baffles me that they somehow got scammed into that
well i mean, their shared webhosting seems reasonable
their cloud hosting is just way over the top
also, i love the comparison you did there que :P
David Reeß
@queicherius
Feb 22 2018 16:48
I'd recommend Hetzner's new cloud hosting to everyone
At least if you don't need anything bigger than their biggest instance size
In which case I recommend Hetzner's dedicated servers :D
To be fair it's easy to fall for shitty hosters like theirs if you don't really know what stuff should cost
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 16:53
hmm... partly true
i'd say that prices like that should scare you and should cause you to not trust them
and should cause you to look into alternatives
or ask other community members for advice
qt went through a similar case
and obviously the creator of gw2efficiency would know something about hosting, right... right? ;)
but seriously, if you're completely new to hosting and don't know anything about how websites or servers work at all, or just never work with computers, maybe
Silveress
@Silveress
Feb 22 2018 16:58
my plan with ovh expires in oct
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 16:58
also, shouldn't the free tier of cloudflare be enough for their website?
Silveress
@Silveress
Feb 22 2018 16:58
yep
it should
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 16:58
i don't see how they would want to pay for it
Silveress
@Silveress
Feb 22 2018 16:59
I would hope to be looking for a new host in aug and migrate in sept
David Reeß
@queicherius
Feb 22 2018 17:26
@Archomeda They pay extra for their hoster to manage it i think
Not sure what the benefit of that is, cloudflare is as easy as it gets...
And I also think its a lot more common to overpay than you'd think
I worked with a company before who had a 10k/month AWS plan and you could reduce that to ~2k by just using dedicated infrastructure with other hosters
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 17:41
hmm, i guess it's true that people just pay more to have someone else handle it for them so they don't have to deal with it themselves
or don't want to figure out how to improve/change something, "because it works"
or i guess in sc's case, being forced to, on short notice
@queicherius, i haven't really looked into cloudflare recently, but shouldn't the domain where the assets are on, have one of cf's ips?
it doesn't look like that snowcrows.com is using cf's ips
11.47$/mo Cloudflare protection managed over host
I thought cloudflare was free for non-business accounts
Werdes
@werdes
Feb 22 2018 17:52
Managed by their hoster?
you could also always go the cheap 30€ hetzner server market route. Old dedicated servers for cheap
David Reeß
@queicherius
Feb 22 2018 17:54
@Archomeda It should have a header
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 17:55
yeah, it doesn't have any as far as i can tell
David Reeß
@queicherius
Feb 22 2018 17:55
but now that you say it, yep the IP is different too
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 17:56
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uses imgur as hosting...
oh wait, it doesn't show the domain
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Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 18:02
so they pay for CF, without having CF? seems sketchy
or it might just not be active yet, if they recently switched
David Reeß
@queicherius
Feb 22 2018 18:03
It sounds like their hoster is responsible for that tho
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 18:04
to activate it you mean? possibly
from what i can tell, this started yesterday, so yeah
still, paying for CF for non-commercial websites... :/
oh well, i hope they will look into getting different hosting, it's just wasting money right now :(
David Reeß
@queicherius
Feb 22 2018 18:09
You know what's also fun and printing money? SSL certs. Was freelancing for a company which was locked into a contract that they could only use SSL certs from a specific provider. A wildcard cart clocked in at 609$/year
And it wasnt even EV
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 18:13
omg
that's insane
does LE do free wildcard certs these days?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 18:14
they plan to
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Feb 22 2018 18:14
they have a closed beta for it or something?
$500 seems about right for wildcard certs like a decade ago
David Reeß
@queicherius
Feb 22 2018 18:14
February 27
WOO
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 18:14
First, we’re planning to introduce an ACME v2 protocol API endpoint and support for wildcard certificates along with it. Wildcard certificates will be free and available globally just like our other certificates. We are planning to have a public test API endpoint up by January 4, and we’ve set a date for the full launch: Tuesday, February 27.
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Feb 22 2018 18:15
oh wow, thats in 5 days :O
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Feb 22 2018 18:15
https://letsencrypt.org/2017/07/06/wildcard-certificates-coming-jan-2018.html they announced it back in july last year that they wanted it:P
glad it's coming :tada: