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    Benjamin Marwell
    @bmarwell
    Ask me why I like slack better
    Btw, the scms asciidoc integration is working fine now, thanks 😉
    djencks
    @djencks
    Gitter is intolerable, but I'm allergic to slack :-)
    IRC + mailing lists :-)
    Dan Allen
    @mojavelinux
    we've already made the decision to move away from Gitter for Zulip. We're just waiting for an open time in our schedule to get it done.
    I've never enjoyed a minute in Slack, so it's not something we are considering. IMO, it's just a bloated mess.
    Benjamin Marwell
    @bmarwell
    don’t know it, but looks really nice!
    Dan Allen
    @mojavelinux
    indeed. and it's open source, which is a huge plus. several of our community members have already been testing it out with their own communities and the feedback has been very positive.
    Majd Turfa
    @MajdT51_gitlab
    Hi, I have a new Problem. Springboot, java11, Windows , could someone help?
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    Majd Turfa
    @MajdT51_gitlab
    And without the jruby-complete in pom i get this error
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    Guillaume Grossetie
    @Mogztter
    apparently isatty(I) method was added in jnr-posix 3.0.35 but you are using 3.0.33
    you can try to add an explicit dependency on jnr-posix 3.0.35 to force Maven to use this version (and potentially exclude the transitive version)
    mvn dependency:tree can help find which dependency is using jnr-posix
    Majd Turfa
    @MajdT51_gitlab
    thanks you , using jruby-core instead of jruby complete solved the problem. and -core include the 3.1.xx of jnr-posix @Mogztter
    Dan Allen
    @mojavelinux
    good to know! @abelsromero @robertpanzer I wonder if this info needs to go in the docs somewhere, or whether it is already covered.
    Robert Panzer
    @robertpanzer
    Interesting. Will check that
    Abel Salgado Romero
    @abelsromero
    Seems to me a usual case classpath hell. First, another dependency must be pulling and older version with a shorter path (Maven does not JUST pull the higher version in classpath, but higher version + short path from root tree). Then, depending on the order of the jars in the classpath, the app is using one class or another. You should study the dependencies as @Mogztter suggested and ensure only the right jnr-posix version is present. If you don't use certain jruby features, jruby-core is fine
    Majd Turfa
    @MajdT51_gitlab
    okay, thanks. today I come with another question
    When I use AsciiDocDirectoryWalker or GlobDirectoryWalker in my java editor(eclipse) my application starts and it works correctly. However, when I package my spring-boot application into a jar and start it in a docker container it gets stuck after "Scan start"
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    Abel Salgado Romero
    @abelsromero
    @MajdT51_gitlab Could you are mounting on path with lots of data (c:/) and is scanning the whole disk? If you can share the code or provide some reproducer on a GH repo it would also help
    Majd Turfa
    @MajdT51_gitlab
    thanks for the quick reply, I will try to provide the code in a GH repo.
    Abel Salgado Romero
    @abelsromero
    @MajdT51_gitlab I build something and can config that when I scan the root new GlobDirectoryWalke("/*/.adoc") it takes ages to run, and in other paths it's quick. So could depend on how you manage paths and volumes
    Majd Turfa
    @MajdT51_gitlab
    okay, thank you :)
    Abel Salgado Romero
    @abelsromero
    I uploaded my project with instructions, it explains how to deploy in a local k8s with life-reload and debugging, it may help you in your endevour https://github.com/abelsromero/asciiboot
    Dan Allen
    @mojavelinux
    nice job Abel!
    @abelsromero would you like to redirect the Asciidoctor Maven plugin page on asciidoctor.org to the new docs site? See what Guillaume did for Asciidoctor.js as an example: asciidoctor/asciidoctor.org#995
    Abel Salgado Romero
    @abelsromero
    We could update all Java docs that have been migrated, but I don't understand the dynamic redirect. We could just place the full url in https://github.com/asciidoctor/asciidoctor.org/blob/master/docs/index.adoc right? I see other links already do that
    Dan Allen
    @mojavelinux
    the dynamic redirect a) preserves existing bookmarks and b) tries to help those bookmarks find the right page or deep link. so it's just a nice thing to do for users who have been linking to that page. however, we could just do a plain old redirect to the start page in the docs site, sure
    I can tell you that if I hadn't done it for the user manual, people would be losing their minds ;)
    Abel Salgado Romero
    @abelsromero
    :+1:
    Dan Allen
    @mojavelinux
    @abelsromero Thanks for reaching out to Zulip again. I'm not sure why they are taking so long to get back to us. If they don't get back to us in a couple more days, perhaps we can just create the organization and get them to change the status later. That way we can begin working to get it set up.
    Abel Salgado Romero
    @abelsromero
    I am not worried about the time if they are really considering options for contributions. There's been a weekend and assume this message got forwared a couple of times maybe. Plus, we don't know how many people is working on support, last time it also took a few days. But you're right, let's give them some extra time and then proceed.
    Dan Allen
    @mojavelinux
    :+1:
    Abel Salgado Romero
    @abelsromero

    Ok...no, :laughing: I see they answered and they did not progress much. I forwarded the message @mojavelinux. I am considering answering this, wdyt? ```The only numbers we can provide are based on gitter. Right now we have 455 in gitter but in truth, no more than 20 are trully daily active.
    The vast majority of people that join just ask for Asciidoctor support from time to time.

    It's our hope to improve the engaging thanks to Zulips features because gitter is complicated to navigate, but sill I don't think we will have more than 40 on start.
    And then an increase of a handful everymonth, we expect reaching a 150 in a year.```. Konwing a bit how this business work, I expect they want to make sure we don't overload them with thousands of users, and loose a big $, but given the numbers I don't think it's a problem.

    Dan Allen
    @mojavelinux
    glad to see they got back to you!
    I agree, I don't think our community is really going to be a burden for them. We have lots of wonderful users, but we are still a pretty small group in the grand scheme of things.
    I would tell them basically what you just said. Our chat community is roughly 500 people, but the number of people posting is well under 100. The community size is very stable. We would expect more active participants with Zulip, but probably not many more total participants (including inactive observers).
    Abel Salgado Romero
    @abelsromero
    replied! now time to do something to justify biling hours :laughing:
    Dan Allen
    @mojavelinux
    thanks Abel!! you're awesome!
    Dan Allen
    @mojavelinux
    If you haven't seen it, check out this Maven site plugin add-on https://github.com/oracle/helidon-build-tools/tree/master/sitegen-maven-plugin that the Helidon project at Oracle made to produce this docs site https://helidon.io
    That is a serious usage of AsciidoctorJ. It even supports converter templates written in Freemarker.
    Guillaume Grossetie
    @Mogztter
    a pretty site produced by Maven, how comes? :wink:
    Abel Salgado Romero
    @abelsromero
    I had a quick look and seems they are doing some interesting stuff, I added to my todo to check it later, but it's 12th item in a growing list :sob:
    Dan Allen
    @mojavelinux
    I can relate.
    Dan Allen
    @mojavelinux
    Asciidoctor social meetup in 45 minutes on SpatialChat at https://spatial.chat/s/KonfyCare (password: Asciidoctor). Look forward to seeing many of you there! We'll go for about 1h30m, though stay however long you like.
    Dan Allen
    @mojavelinux

    We're making the switch from Gitter to Zulip. The main reason we are migrating is because Zulip provides a way to manage parallel conversations (called topics), which can help organize the the discourse in busy channels like this one. I think this will give conversations their own space and reduce anxiety levels overall.

    You are invited to join our new home for chat at https://asciidoctor.zulipchat.com There's a dedicated stream for AsciidoctorJ named #users/asciidoctorj, though you are welcome to participate in the main #users stream too. It's now open for anyone to join. How you choose to register is up to use (email, GitHub, or GitLab).

    Unless you are following up on a previous thread here, we encourage you to start any new conversation over on Zulip.

    James Elliott
    @brunchboy
    :tada:
    Dan Allen
    @mojavelinux
    To ease any worries, we won't shut down the channels on Gitter. After all, there is valuable information here. But we will stop actively using them.