These are chat archives for astropy/astropy

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Apr 2016
Stuart Mumford
@Cadair
Apr 01 2016 09:33
@eteq while the gitter IRC bridge is ok, it has all the disadvanatages of Gitter (needing a GitHub account, making things more reliant on GitHub etc) while also being even more non-user friendly than normal IRC
I am happy enough with it now I have it running through my usual IRC bouncer, so I get logs and stuff
Wolfgang Kerzendorf
@wkerzendorf
Apr 01 2016 09:56
@eteq @Cadair I have been quiet about the Gitter integration. Now here my 2cents: We use Gitter in the TARDIS collaboration now relatively often and in particular with our GSoC students. It’s a very nice environment for chatting and integrates tightly into GitHub. I don’t think it’s an argument that you need an account - you do not if you are just going to listen. I found IRC always really cumbersome, because you need to install something and go to a specific server, etc. Gitter is just a link, quick and easy (I’m sure with less options than IRC). I think for astropy it’s really good. </my2cents>
Stuart Mumford
@Cadair
Apr 01 2016 09:57
hey wkerzendorf
Wolfgang Kerzendorf
@wkerzendorf
Apr 01 2016 09:58
hey
sorry was lurking in the dark :wink:
Stuart Mumford
@Cadair
Apr 01 2016 10:27
@wkerzendorf, you really are keeping me hanging here :p
Wolfgang Kerzendorf
@wkerzendorf
Apr 01 2016 10:27
@Cadair about what - I wrote back. Maybe the bridge doesn’t work :D
Stuart Mumford
@Cadair
Apr 01 2016 10:28
I never did get your 2cents on the gitter integration
damn it
huh
Wolfgang Kerzendorf
@wkerzendorf
Apr 01 2016 10:28
@Cadair what do you mean - you didn’t get my praise of gitter?
Stuart Mumford
@Cadair
Apr 01 2016 10:28
or it truncated the message
Wolfgang Kerzendorf
@wkerzendorf
Apr 01 2016 10:29
I see
Stuart Mumford
@Cadair
Apr 01 2016 10:29
the argument that it's just a link does not hold up IMO.
I shall now demonstrate, wkerzendorf please go to this link: https://kiwiirc.com/client/chat.freenode.com/#sunpy
@wkerzendorf can you send another long message to see if the IRC bridge truncated it please?
Wolfgang Kerzendorf
@wkerzendorf
Apr 01 2016 11:32
@Cadair
Fortran is, for better or worse, the only major language out there specifically designed for scientific numerical computing. It's array handling is nice, with succinct array operations on both whole arrays and on slices, comparable with matlab or numpy but super fast. The language is carefully designed to make it very difficult to accidentally write slow code -- pointers are restricted in such a way that it's immediately obvious if there might be aliasing, as the standard example -- and so the optimizer can go to town on your code. Current incarnations have things like coarray fortran, and do concurrent and forall built into the language, allowing distributed memory and shared memory parallelism, and vectorization.
Stuart Mumford
@Cadair
Apr 01 2016 11:39
@wkerzendorf, well that worked
interesting the otherone did not
Erik Tollerud
@eteq
Apr 01 2016 15:16
No Fortran on this channel! Strict rules! ;)
And thanks for the feedback, @wkerzendorf - I’ve been convinced to drop the IRC mention completely in astropy/astropy.github.com#104
Will merge that and a README change by the end of today (so perhaps we’ll see even more of an uptick in the near future here)