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Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
It's just like what happened with node/iojs
Eric J. Smith
@ejsmith
Also you are writing ES6 but just types added in.
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
Though, I'm more interested in Facebook Flow actually
If they could just get their act together and fix support for like... all of the things
Eric J. Smith
@ejsmith
Pretty similar syntax as facebooks language and there is a JS proposal to make the type annotations part of JS.
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
@ejsmith Read the comment history for today, been some interesting info related to AI = Aurelia Interface. Pretty excited about it.
Eric J. Smith
@ejsmith
Why are you interested in flow? I don't like any of the stuff coming out of Facebook. Hate hate that react is so popular.
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
Lol, why?
Eric J. Smith
@ejsmith
On my phone now. Would be hard to search, but I will try and find it later.
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
@ejsmith @Alxandr I like that React got the frameworks community to start thinking a different way. Composition pattern and components is the future, but I think that the React Virtual DOM is a temporary bridge technology masking mobile browser issues that is being resolved through standards and just normal tech progress.
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
@chrismbeckett the virtual dom is completely and redicolously awesome for testing though
Eric J. Smith
@ejsmith
Because it's fucking ridiculous to mix JS and HTML. And Vdom is working against web progress.
Roland Quast
@rquast
@ejsmith so you mean you hate jsx?
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
and it allows for server-side rendering....
Eric J. Smith
@ejsmith
Yes that would be the biggest thing.
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
I don't do servers in JS, so that don't help me at all
Joel Cox
@joelcoxokc
@rquast @forestmarie @chrismbeckett @Alxandr @airboss001 @andrevlins @adriatic @evanlarsen
And to any one else that was viewing in on this conversation. :point_up: October 30, 2015 2:42 PM about the aurelia-dialog.
I feel I may have mislead some regarding release Dates.
I will brief yall tomorrow AM, on the changes to the aurelia-dialog, here on Gitter. However, The PR still must go through some validation. It will not be released tomorrow.
If you have any questions or recommendations regarding the aurelia-dialog, we can discuss tomorrow.
Eric J. Smith
@ejsmith
Server side rendering just seems silly to me. The search engines can handle JS just fine.
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
@joelcoxokc Honestly, I am excited about what you revealed today, but I don't expect it until next summer.
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
Lol, cause search engines are everything we ever cared about
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
@joelcoxokc No issues with unrealistic expectations here :0
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
I've never in my life done SEO optimization :P
Eric J. Smith
@ejsmith
So why else are you doing server rendering?
Roland Quast
@rquast
@joelcoxokc @EisenbergEffect there's no hurry for me... don't worry yourselves too much. :)
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
Cause it's way more performant
Anyways
Going to bed
It's 4:30 am
Roland Quast
@rquast
for an initial page load, yes, if people come to your site for the first time
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
I spent a day with the Visual Studio team recently as part of a group of mobile devs providing feedback. My #1 feedback was why do we still need multiple browser engines? The quirks in mobile browsers is even worse than it is in normal browsers. Is there really any market/competitive advantage to having multiple rendering engines?
Roland Quast
@rquast
that's pretty important
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
@chrismbeckett yes
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
In that regard I love the idea of Virtual DOM because you get a consistent DOM that works everywhere
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
We do not want a single browser engine
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
Why? Why can't it be like Node and be a consortium of the tech vendors.
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
Also, the VDOM is not mainly to provide a consistent DOM
Simple. Look what happened when IE was the only browser vendor
We stopped innovating
The competition between the browsers is really good for the customers
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
I think the opposite, I think it is massively holding back the web.
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
And makes our developer life a tiny bit more dificult (as long as we keep to supporting only the latest browsers anyhow)
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
The worldwide waste of effort by developers and designers trying to support web apps across all the various browser issues is a huge waste of time and money.
It doesn't benefit users at all from my perspective. What is driving innovation is that people want to build more complex web applications.
Kijana Woodard
@kijanawoodard
@chrismbeckett you could say that about.......everything
Eric J. Smith
@ejsmith
No competition is a very dangerous thing
Kijana Woodard
@kijanawoodard
the question is, which browser should be "the browser". Suggest one and you'll start a flame war.
Roland Quast
@rquast
communism! :fire:
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
I don't think we can have 1 browser, tech vendors want it for integration and brand, but I think we could make the rendering engine a consortium...
Michael Prescott
@michaelprescott
@kijanawoodard Well, obviously, Chrome should be "the browser" ;)
Kijana Woodard
@kijanawoodard
@michaelprescott 6 months ago I would said obviously too. the last month i've been ready to switch. ;-)