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Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
We've understood you don't like MS.
I'm not trying to get personal, but let's not rage this into a flamewar. Wrong place to discuss it anyways
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
@Alxandr I am NOT Anti-Microsoft!!! But you have to follow the money trail to understand the technology industry.
Luke A. Greenleaf
@gishmel
Roland Quast
@rquast
but you can essentially write an entire framework (painting/layout and all) with asm.js
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
@gishmel sure it is. Though they plan to expand it beyond js eventually
@chrismbeckett Hmm, well. Sorry if I misunderstood you then.
Luke A. Greenleaf
@gishmel
no its not if your claim is they eventually compile to Javascript in asm.js then sure thats what they are doing currently
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
@gishmel not my claim
So, to explain what I mean:
In FF (which supports ASM.js), there is a few components that work to support ASM.js
One of which is a parser
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
@Alxandr No worries, sorry if I came across like a troll. I regularly participate in Microsoft UX studies here in Seattle where I live, and other Microsoft developer focus groups. I love that they are now releasing their apps on other platforms, etc.
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
Another of which is a the execution engine
Roland Quast
@rquast
heh.. this is funny.. but I received an email from Microsoft today titled "Meet your new favourite browser - Microsoft Edge".
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
@chrismbeckett Not in general. Mainly just that last message. Though. It's 5am. I might be overly irritable atm :P
Roland Quast
@rquast
they obviously don't know that I mostly use mac and linux
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
@rquast Yeah. So, I tried Edge. Once. xD
Roland Quast
@rquast
hey ... they deserve respect for rebuilding it
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
And then went like "Omg, I'm sorry, please take me back Chrome" :cry:
Roland Quast
@rquast
but their marketing dept... cry
Luke A. Greenleaf
@gishmel
yeah linux is life for me @rquast if only I could get rid of my windows laptop at work I would be a much happier person
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
@gishmel the other part is an engine
That takes an AST and executes it
The point of web assembly is to replace the parser
While keeping the engine
(for now at least)
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
@Alxandr Tim Berners-Lee himself recently published he was concerned that apps were going to drive the progress made in the open web into closed eco-systems controlled by Apple, Micrsoft etc. I have to admit I am concerned about the privatization of the Internet.
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
I'm not really
Mainly cause we saw the same thing on mobile
And they all push back to wanting to do mobile web
'cept the mobiles don't really handle that well yet
Native will always be better
Always have been better
But devs preffer web, cause it's inherently xplat
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
@Alxandr Same argument desktop developers made when the Web was evolving, desktop apps will always be better. And yet, the Web became huge.
Aleksander Heintz
@Alxandr
And so, fancy ux requires native (though web is getting better at that)
Yeah, that was my point
Same thing will probably just happen again
There will be a place for "apps" a good while forward
Cause stuff like offline and others are simply better there still
Not to mention memory consumption on chrome -.-
But I really, really need to stop discussing now and go to bed xD
So stop coming with engaging subjects xD
I'll talk to y'all later
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
@Alxandr Night, respect your opinions, and recognize the conjecture in my own.
Luke A. Greenleaf
@gishmel
if you read the second article @Alxandr you would realize you described asm.js not web assembly
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
@Alxandr I don't really think I am right, but I find value in the conversation and hearing others opinions.
Luke A. Greenleaf
@gishmel
but have a good night
Chris Beckett
@chrismbeckett
@Alxandr Thanks, night