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29th
Aug 2014
Jitendra Vyas
@jitendravyas
Aug 29 2014 10:35
How do you train new joiners in team to use BEM conventions ?
Yelena Jetpyspayeva
@mursya
Aug 29 2014 11:50
@jitendravyas we have bem.info as the main source. most of the joiners are Russian speakers, so there are a lot of talks and demos, that we still translating for English community. we answer questions here and in twitter. and for those who became users (BEM CSS and more: tools, i-bem.js, templating, libraries) we host BEMups — meetups on BEM (Moscow, Saint-Petersburg, etc). we also give seminars for the companies and team upon requests, for free
Sergey Berezhnoy
@veged
Aug 29 2014 11:50
@jitendravyas in Yandex it's vary — mostly by padawan-mentor system
Yelena Jetpyspayeva
@mursya
Aug 29 2014 11:52
@jitendravyas @veged is right, but we also did research last year inside the company and found out its "cheaper" hiring those who knows BEM already. we hiring from the community, encourage to learn and help to do it
Ruslan Zavacky
@RuslanZavacky
Aug 29 2014 11:56
We are trying to convert 40+ developers into BEM lovers. We are writing documents for internal use, gathering information, etc. Probably we will release our knowledge on transition from chaotic CSS to BEM. But we plan to use only methodology itself, without all Yandex infrastructure, as it did not fit for us.
Sergey Berezhnoy
@veged
Aug 29 2014 11:58
@RuslanZavacky it will be cool if you share such docs! also if you can describe what doesn't fit for you and what you make instead your own it will be cool too ;-)
Ruslan Zavacky
@RuslanZavacky
Aug 29 2014 12:06
"Did not fit" just because we can't transition everything at once. Business needs and developers needs are a bit different ) we need to move forward with tasks & to make continuous improvement. So implementing methodology & separating everything into blocks is a first step. As it will include learning a lot. BEM concept is simple, but "how to do it right" brings a lot of questions. And to prevent fighting on Code Review process, we need to outline a lot of Rules for fair play review :)
Jitendra Vyas
@jitendravyas
Aug 29 2014 16:39
Thanks guys for reply
Today my one friend introduced me to this http://docssa.info/ going to check it, what's in it
Alexej Yaroshevich
@zxqfox
Aug 29 2014 18:25
@RuslanZavacky I've spent like a year to bring bem methodology to existent project. And still it isn't fully compatible with methodology ;-(. But anyone now understand what profits we've got. I wish you good luck in it! Also I can share my experience and some ideas if you stuck in that process.