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willv015
@willv015
I was thinking maybe I could have buoy send an email to an account that was on the same virtual machine as the dev environment that could be read by the mail program on that machine
Meitar M.
@meitar
You can; that is what Mailcatcher is for. Again, this is documented in the "Emails and txt messages" section of the development environment setup guide.
willv015
@willv015
ok thanks. I will check out that section of the dev guide
havengoer
@havengoer
hello! I'm working with IBO to create a safe place for veterans with MST, with @christyleos and @the-phoebe ... so after a fresh install of Buoy on a shared hosting with a one-click WP installation... we're getting this error msgs for issue #221:
havengoer
@havengoer
not really a competent programmer, haha but I'm willing to learn ^-^;; if you direct me where in my configurations that made those errors, @meitar, we'd be so grateful :D
Meitar M.
@meitar
@havengoer Thanks for the log! I don't think your specific configuration is at fault and, if it is related in some way, it's worth detecting whatever might have caused that, in code. More likely than not, something in Leaflet or WordPress has changed recently and I just haven't kept up because, bluntly, no one is resourcing me to do this work and I cannot do it reliably without such resourcing. I appreciate you adding detail to @the-phoebe's ticket with the log file you attached. When I have some time to do so, I'll take a look at it in more depth. I cannot promise or predict when that might be, though. :(
havengoer
@havengoer
@meitar woot ^^ thanks for the reply <3 I know you're definitely busy and swamped with stuff. But do know that we really appreciate you and the Better Angels work on this project ^_^
Meitar M.
@meitar
@havengoer That's good to hear! I'm happy to work on it, and it's not so much about being swamped, just under-resourced. It's a very big investment of effort with very little return (even in mere encouragement to keep going), so…y'know, I don't.
I'm actually working on WP-LDAP right now, which is intended for Activist Network Platform and thus, hopefully, a precursor to Buoy for larger-scale orgs.
Meitar M.
@meitar
@havengoer You might consider hopping into the Better Angels' general chatter channel, too, even if just to lurk for a while. A lot of tech/coding mentoring/education goes on in there.
havengoer
@havengoer
hi @meitar - will definitely check it out ^_^ thank you so much! <3
Meitar M.
@meitar
Hahaha, remember when people were telling me I was not being reasonable when I decided to use SMS-to-email gateways for the Team Chat feature? Welp, check out Delta.chat, an end-to-end encrypted messenger that uses IMAP as its transport (using AutoCrypt with OpenPGP). I just tested it out and it's pretty slick, actually. I feel half-vindicated.
havengoer
@havengoer
that's awesome
it's actually amazing :D
Meitar M.
@meitar
Pretty neat, right? This proves the point I've been making for aaaaaages that "txts are just emails are just IMs; these are all the exact same thing presented from different angles."
havengoer
@havengoer
yeah, it just depends on the protocol and stuff
LizPrescott
@LizPrescott
Hi hi! How can I help? I'm a programmer and a writer, so I could help with coding or documentation (or both).
Meitar M.
@meitar
Hi @LizPrescott, at the moment all of my energy has gone towards more foundational projects (see Glocal ANP and numerous recent discussions in the Better Angels general chatter room, along with my GitHub activity feed), so I haven't touched Buoy code in several months. This means it's exactly where we left it, and the first place to look would be the issues labelled good first issue in the issue tracker.
So…it's basically your show if you want it to be. Otherwise, hang here (and in the Better Angels general chatter room) and, um, have fun with us. :)
LizPrescott
@LizPrescott
Do I understand correctly that this is a WordPress plugin?
I think I'm getting confused.
Meitar M.
@meitar
@LizPrescott That's correct, it is a WordPress plugin.
LizPrescott
@LizPrescott
That is so lucky because WordPress is my thing.
Meitar M.
@meitar
:)
LizPrescott
@LizPrescott
Just checking. There's nothing on the list of buoy-enabled websites. Does that mean there aren't any yet?
Christy Leos
@christyleos
That not necessarily true @LizPrescott - for instance we've enabled Buoy on carryon.online, a prototype site for military sexual trauma survivors.
And if I'm not mistaken this https://wordpress.org/plugins/buoy/ says there are 20 active installs
I would think that if you wanted to use Buoy in secret, you wouldn't want it posted anywhere.
Christy Leos
@christyleos
If you are still interested in working on the code - @havengoer is our tech person for carryon and would probably love to talk to you about her thoughts on improving Buoy.
LizPrescott
@LizPrescott
Oh cool! Yes, I would really love to chat with her.
Maybe that page should come out of the documentation. It is a bit confusing.
Meitar M.
@meitar
@LizPrescott That page is a placeholder until Lighthouse is functional. So far, no one's been wanting to add to it. But, @christyleos, if Carryon.online wants to list themselves there, that would be a good start.
Also, I hope it goes without saying but I hope chatting about improving Buoy is done here or on GitHub, where it's possible for lurkers to see and so as to take advantage of the nature of open source development processes.
Christy Leos
@christyleos
Hey @havengoer see above ^
and @meitar - definitely
LizPrescott
@LizPrescott
Thanks @meitar I'm still learning the group norms, so I appreciate you making them explicit!
Meitar M.
@meitar
Yeah, @LizPrescott, of course, thanks for your work and interest on this. It's been a little while since you arrived, have you had a chance to look into any of the existing codebase or explore the project much?
LizPrescott
@LizPrescott
I have not. My childcare starts in September, so that's when I'll really get going. Just trying to get some context rn.
Meitar M.
@meitar
Okay, cool. :)
matrixbot
@matrixbot
@Baffy:matrix.org hello
Meitar M.
@meitar
Hello, Baffy.
matrixbot
@matrixbot
@Baffy:matrix.org oh cool, i was wondering if this worked oer matrix
Meitar M.
@meitar
You're using Riot chat or something, Baffy?
I know they have a Matrix<->Gitter bridge.
matrixbot
@matrixbot
@Baffy:matrix.org yeah, this channel wasn't showing up in the directory but it is now
LizPrescott
@LizPrescott
Hi, so I'm trying to set up my dev environment for the first time on this machine, and I am getting stuck. What is the advantage of using vagrant instead of following the instructions in the WordPress codex for local installation?
Meitar M.
@meitar

@LizPrescott Sorry I'm just seeing this!

There are many benefits to using Vagrant over installing WordPress without it. The most imporatnt answer to your question is that using Vagrant ensures that your copy of the Buoy development environment matches exactly the configuration that other developers (like me) use when we run the development copy. This makes it much, much easier to assure ourselves that problems in our code are problems actually in our code, and not caused by differences in, say, PHP version, or Web server software chosen, or things outside-of-our-app.

LizPrescott
@LizPrescott
Ah ha! Thanks!
Meitar M.
@meitar
Sure. :)