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    Matthew Phillips
    @matthewp
    Only use can.Control if you're an advanced user
    Mohamed Cherif Bouchelaghem
    @cherifGsoul
    I remember when I started canjs there was only Control compute observe and model :)
    Alexis Abril
    @alexisabril
    hey everyone! I’m delaying today’s podcast by 30 min as we’re having a few technical difficulties on our side today
    stay tuned, I’ll keep you posted!
    Mohamed Cherif Bouchelaghem
    @cherifGsoul
    @alexisabril ok
    what's the topic of today?
    Alexis Abril
    @alexisabril
    today is a StealJS overview by StealJS’s lead @matthewp
    Mohamed Cherif Bouchelaghem
    @cherifGsoul
    aha very interesting
    Matthew Phillips
    @matthewp
    sorry everyone, my power mysteriously went out on this sunny 80° day
    Mohamed Cherif Bouchelaghem
    @cherifGsoul
    oh hope you're ok!!
    Matthew Phillips
    @matthewp
    i'm fine, just worried there for a minute that i forgot to pay my bill
    Mohamed Cherif Bouchelaghem
    @cherifGsoul
    Ok :)
    kiwi1342
    @kiwi1342
    Unfortunately I won't be able to make it 😔
    Matthew Phillips
    @matthewp
    :(
    Mohamed Cherif Bouchelaghem
    @cherifGsoul
    the link for the hangout :)
    Mohamed Cherif Bouchelaghem
    @cherifGsoul
    impressed with vim in sublime text days haha
    Mohamed Cherif Bouchelaghem
    @cherifGsoul
    build yes
    Matthew Phillips
    @matthewp
    Mohamed Cherif Bouchelaghem
    @cherifGsoul
    can you show us an example of cordova and nw build ?
    Mohamed Cherif Bouchelaghem
    @cherifGsoul
    thank you :)
    Matthew Phillips
    @matthewp
    thanks! sorry i didn't have time to go over cordova/nw
    we need to do a donejs podcast where we talk about those things
    Mohamed Cherif Bouchelaghem
    @cherifGsoul
    yes I think will be better with DoneJS
    Alexis Abril
    @alexisabril
    Getting started shortly!
    Daniel Hug
    @Daniel-Hug
    My first time live!
    Alexis Abril
    @alexisabril
    damerms
    @damerms
    Here's my question since I am not sure if I can stay long or at all.
    As JS experts, is it even necessary to use frameworks or libraries?
    Thanks.
    damerms
    @damerms
    Here is an interesting link to compliment this chat. The State of Front-End Tooling – 2015 http://ashleynolan.co.uk/blog/frontend-tooling-survey-2015-results
    Daniel Hug
    @Daniel-Hug
    You can zoom in devtools just like browser with cmd+
    Alexis Abril
    @alexisabril
    hey everyone, getting started soon with a CanJS overview
    for justin’s stream
    Zurc
    @Zurc
    I have a JS question... Here you can see the code
    http://jsbin.com/kisaka/1/edit?html,console,output
    I'm trying to click one accordion header and open two with the same data-hd number...
    the same if I do for instance $('[data-hd="2"]').click() on the console it will open second headers at the same time...
    I think I have a context problem... because I tried to read data-hd of the header I'm clicking on, then traversing to a parent common ancestor and find all headers with that data-hd number... but isn't working... how can I do?
    Zurc
    @Zurc
    update: I manage to open both at the same time... but I couldn't collapse both at the same time... maybe starts and endless loop?...
    http://jsbin.com/vazezupika/1/edit?html,js,output
    Alexis Abril
    @alexisabril
    hey everyone, we’ll be getting started shortly
    xedos
    @xedoken
    Hello, Alexis from Siberia Russia! Can i see yesterdays example code about testing? I mean example app with upvote and downvote, may be on github or somewhere else? Thank you!
    Alexis Abril
    @alexisabril
    @xedoken Of course! I'll put those up somewhere and place a link in the video description
    kmkale
    @kmkale
    Hi, I've been going through the Advanced Javascript Jquery DOM course at Frontend Masters. I havent understood how the makeTraverser function (in the Refactoring Traversing Code section) works and the pattern seems to be important for code refactoring. What I see is, it is a function that returns a function and takes a function as argument and calls apply on that function. But how it works is a mystery to me. Could you please explain it?
    Alexis Abril
    @alexisabril
    Hey everyone, we're going to start ~10 min late this morning as we resolve some technical issues
    @kmkale we'd be happy to review your question in today's session!
    Alexis Abril
    @alexisabril
    and we're live!
    xedos
    @xedoken
    Alexis, we didn't see Justin's desktop) we see your cam :smile:
    Thank you so much for sharing this! Russia Siberia is wathing your screencasts :)