Okay. Now, I am looking at the three PRs.
:+1:
Ps - some super cool stuff in the next release. It's gonna be ace.
Here's a question, given the updated phantomjs npm, have you found a decent solution for npms that don't actually have the binaries in the package? A solution that doesn't involve them reaching out to github?
(Next minor release)
Paul is talking it up a lot on twitter.
No solution re binaries.
What's the concern?
Oh, and you all are going Reactjs soon? I'd like to hear some more details on the discussion that made that happen. We are using both Angular 2 and React at work in some projects.
People smarter than me
(In terms of web dev at least)
Eh, at work we lock down our build nodes (Jenkins) so we can control what is used for the software. PhantomJs and others (node-sass) reach back out to github to get the binaries. I've resolved it for now but it's not what I wished it was.
Are you building this at work?
I just updated it so I'd get the same behaviour between browser and phantom...
Bluefin? No. I do a little work on it from time to time.
Can skip the update if need be
Nah, not meaning that. I was just curious.
Ahh
Haven't had that challenge in a locked down environment.
My first thought would be something like artifactory to cache npms or some such
But not sure that solves the GitHub issue.
Yeah, what I ended up doing is (given these are in conjuction with a full VS solution) having the project install the PhantomJS nuget (which has the binary) and adding that nuget tools folder to the PATH, which npm can find during build. Works and keeps the build node from needing to have it installed so the devs can update their phantomjs version at will.
Maybe raise an issue against the phaontomjs package and ask them for a solution?
Yeah, I'm trying to formulate what a good solution would be. I understand why they do that. It's to work cross platform. The phantomjs npm installer pulls down the appropriate binary for the platform. Adding phantomjs-x86,phantomjs-x64,phantomjs-linux,etc... would be a pain. Could just have the phantomjs npm install it on the fly, so there's that.
Well, now that I said that outloud that one does sound plausible.
I remember seeing it somewhere, isn't there a place to download pre-releases of upcoming Octopus?
Only if we publish them explicitly.
We don't generally
Ahh. Okay. Must have been a dream then.
Thanks for merging those PRs
Sure. I'm working through the last one right now, the dashboard filter. I know it duplicates what's native, but this can be turned on all the time, even when one has all projects shown. Which is what I typically do.
You got any monitoring setup on your OD server?
Funny that you mention that. My team just had a discussion this morning on putting Dynatrace onto our OD server. Along with a lot of the other stuff we manage.
So, no. Not yet. But will soon.
I'm just investigating how to configure AppDynamics for a customer.
If you happen to do Dynatrace, and happen to keep some notes and happen to do a PR against the Octopus Docs repo, I really won't mind :)
Oh, and here I thought you were trying to drop a hint or something. ;-)
Lol
We have a project in Octopus that installs Dynatrace for us, and a Tentacle on the OD server. So the install is gonna be a breeze. But I do believe there's a step for proper monitoring config. I'll be sure to take notes.
Yeah, it's the "how to configure it to monitor the right stuff" part that's a challenge.
Feel free to ping me if you need info on what methods to monitor and the like
Oh. Dynatrace is easier than that. We just have to tell it what process to watch or something like that. After that, it monitors everything.
I drown in data in Dynatrace. I'll take a few screenshots of it against Octopus for ya.
with AppDynamics, as its a custom windows service (rather than a website), it wants to know details about where requests come in
so you have to setup "Business Transactions" in it
Ahhh. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah, we'd have to do the same thing if we want a report on specifics. So that's the same for both monitoring tools. But if we don't we can still just inspect everything happening. It's expensive though (financially, not performance wise).
so is AppDynamics... And New Relic.
if you have to ask how much it is, you probably cant afford it :)
So I may in fact ping you on some good points to monitor.
Haha.
lol, Dynatrace is worse than New Relic :) but it's also on prem so you aren't giving your data away
@davidroberts63 if you want to compare notes we are also trying to get OD to setup DT for us, the iisreset portion to allow DT to hook is where it gets hairy on co-located sites on a single server
Yeah, I'm up for sharing notes.
We looked at New relic and had reservations on sending the data out. Plus we like how Dyna trace gets all transactions, instead of just sampling (at least at the time we looked at New relic)
Happy to work with you both to get it documented and potentially make some changes to the code base to make the monitoring easier.
Ahh, @dragon788, you're talking about deploying DT with OD.
My goal was to monitor OD itself.