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    Glen Pierce
    @glenpierce
    Does that sound like it's inline with the hackathon's objectives?
    Glen Pierce
    @glenpierce
    @nitinator do you want us to sign up for the hackathons ourselves since we've got our information?
    I'm looking at this project that's already described on the Hackseq page: https://hackseq.github.io/hs18/2018/08/11/Projects2018.txt.html#project-7-blockchain-for-infectious-disease
    My knowledge of Biology is limited to what I learned in high school. So basically I know that living things are made of Biology and that's about it. Joining up with someone with knowledge of how to apply computational power to Biology questions would be extremely helpful.
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    @glenpierce - go ahead and register for the hackathon yourselves.
    Wrt to the decentralized financial wellbeing hackathon, they gave the example of "Alice and Bob are your child care worker, your parent on Social Security, the cashier at your supermarket, the gas attendant, the salesperson at your big box store, your waitress, a home health aide, an office clerk working in health care." -- so I don't think these folks are pulling in a large income.
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    I believe the way to make more money is to increase your profits and decrease your expenses. So your approach of moving in with roommates is definitely applicable to decrease the overhead of a roof over-head. :)
    The way Alice and Bob are described, they're not scraping by, they're limping by because they're missing a few main staples to get by.
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    I believe the solution for Alice and Bob will be a mixed short/long term solution - something to get them at the minimum today, with a long term plan in place for their future as well. I had some ideas:
    A) We move a bunch of Alices and/or Bobs to a purpose-built community we create in a place where the expenses are cheaper and they still can have an average job - this will lessen the pressure on expenses. We want to create a community that helps each other out so that Alice and Bob aren't alone against the world and have a group to share with - plus we can create a mixed generation / ethnicity community to encourage understanding and compassion and real community connections.
    B) If on-site jobs aren't available, we can encourage companies to hire Alice and Bob for remote jobs (translation, consulting, teaching, story-telling, etc.) by subsidizing their initial training to get up to speed on the tools and tech to be productive.
    C) We could also offer a 'shark tank' type model for investment institutions looking to earn some positive PR by putting together portfolios for Alice and Bob to choose to invest into with what little amount they have leftover at the end of the paycheque (They should have a little more now that we've moved them to a place with a lower cost of living, and we've gotten them jobs making a decent amount).
    For A), we could capture anonymized finances (income, expenses, investments) in blockchain for Alices and Bobs, and have an online community offering them solutions and guidance for them to save/survive, as well as cheer them on. The community could receive merit badges for participation, and could be made up of institutional representatives such as Insurance Sales people, or just Jane Doe who'se a savvy home economics whiz.
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    For C) we could capture Alice and Bob's portfolios over time in an anonymized blockchain and let a community critique and offer feedback on which option is good. Over time we can all watch their savings develop.
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    @glenpierce I've been looking at hackseq and need to do more due diligence to see how I can help - perhaps i can connect you with the right bio person to help you unlock some insights... still also trying to understand how they have created their hackathon, e.g. there are leaders, there are idea submitters, etc.
    Jade
    @pyaria

    Hey guys, late to the conversation here, but here are my belated comments:

    Does that sound like it's inline with the [financial wellbeing] hackathon's objectives?

    They state Participants will create a decentralized product/service to help Alice and Bob participate in a viable and sustainable way in the emerging decentralized economy. which gives me an iffy feeling because it is reminiscent of the "free-lancing is a panacea for those with more money" spiel that Uber/AmazonFlex/etc sell people on but actually exploits the majority of their free-lancing contractors.
    ...With a blockchain twist, of course.

    My knowledge of Biology is limited to what I learned in high school. [HackSeq]
    I've worked in cancer research a little, but nothing computationally-related or relevant to the blockchain project proposed.
    The infectious disease angle could be interesting if you could display a brief history of locations that sick-and-opted-in users have visited as like a tailwind on a map.

    I think it could be even more interesting if expanded to gastrointestinal upset cases (early food poisoning detection system)

    Jade
    @pyaria
    HackSeq looks like an academic (UBC/SFU) initiative to incorporate science and tech the listed project ideas were crowd-sourced.
    It looks like last year's winners got a paper out of their project: https://bmcbioinformatics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12859-018-2315-y
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    Coincidentally I saw this PBS video on facebook today about saving up for your retirement: https://www.facebook.com/TwoCentsPBS/videos/2179881818917567/
    I think we should look at a solution to get Alice and Bob on the right track, then apply the technological approach afterwards.
    Carolyn Ch'ng
    @cchng
    Hi @nitinator and everyone, good to see some interest in HackSeq! I was a participant in HackSeq16 and I'd be happy to contribute wherever I can. I'm still catching up with previous discussions - I can reach out to the organizers if there are any questions.
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    Hey @cchng ! - thanks for joining our discussion... @glenpierce had mentioned earlier "My knowledge of Biology is limited to what I learned in high school. So basically I know that living things are made of Biology and that's about it. Joining up with someone with knowledge of how to apply computational power to Biology questions would be extremely helpful." so... :)
    Carolyn Ch'ng
    @cchng
    @nitinator @glenpierce are you planning to work on project 7? As far as I know, participants choose their preferred projects and the organizers assign them as they see fit. We might have to ask if there's a possibility to work as a team.
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    Unfortunately I won't be able to participate in the hackathon, but I can facilitate ideation and development help from Bluzelle if you need.
    @cchng So people apply to the hackathon and are guided to the projects by organizers?
    Carolyn Ch'ng
    @cchng
    @nitinator that's correct, at least that's true for participants who sign up individually - we choose the top three, they will assign the final project. I'm not sure how it works for company sponsors/partnerships. It's probably to make sure each project has about the same number of participants.
    @nitinator new project submissions ended in June. For project 7, it might be worthwhile reaching out to the team lead?
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    @pyaria @glenpierce - what do you think of @cchng idea of reaching out to the lead for project 7 (https://hackseq.github.io/hs18/2018/08/11/Projects2018.txt.html#project-7-blockchain-for-infectious-disease)? - using bluzelle's decentralized database could be a great serverless and neutral solution for allowing global contributors in an anonymized dataset
    Glen Pierce
    @glenpierce
    I'm applying now, I'll let this group know the results.
    I've never had to apply to a hackathon before.
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    Good luck @glenpierce
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    Hey @/all I've just created a spreadsheet to track ideas and their merit - it'll be easier to see it all in one place: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JsbdiZMtPmOg-VRtL0-qdiWSJwW-EMuK-0kQuGk5m0A/edit?usp=sharing
    Glen Pierce
    @glenpierce
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    Thanks @glenpierce - yesterday I was talking to SFU students who put me on to this: https://www.vansash.com/ - a sports analytics hackathon put on by SFU students for students - sold out.
    'FYI: There's also a Microsoft Hackathon here which overlaps with the Hackseq event, but it looks interesting as well: https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/hackathon-for-individuals-with-complex-health-needs-tickets-50417699697?utm-medium=discovery&utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&aff=escb&utm-source=cp&utm-term=listing' - this does look interesting, perhaps @pyaria may be interested if hackseq doesn't suit, or you could go if your application to hackseq isn't accepted.
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    Interesting how there are two hackathons on the same weekend. I guess there's only 52 options, of those 10 include stat holidays, and then there's the seasonal migration of people (summer holidays, winter snowbirds, etc.), so it's not actually that rare.
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    If anybody is interested, I have contacts in healthcare that I could connect us up with for the MSoft Hackathon mentioned by @glenpierce - we could see which of the topics they know about and poll them for suggestions and insights
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    Have a great weekend all, looking forward to collaborating and hitting up some of these coming hackathons.
    Carolyn Ch'ng
    @cchng
    Hey there, any updates on whether we are moving forward with Hackseq? It looks like today’s the last day for participant applications
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    I believe Glen has applied to hackseq but I don't think anybody else has done so that I know of.
    Sorry, I didn't know today was the deadline for applications.
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    @glenpierce - have you heard back from hackseq?
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    Carolyn Ch'ng
    @cchng
    #1 looks interesting, but I likely won't be able to make it for the full event - will ping if plans change.
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    Thanks for the update @cchng - if your plans change please do let me know
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    Thanks @pyaria - when can you confirm?
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    @glenpierce - looks like the decentralized financial wellbeing hackathon registration is closed - were you able to get in?
    Glen Pierce
    @glenpierce
    @nitinator yes, I was. I'm in as far as I know.
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    @glenpierce Awesome!
    mirzerin
    @mirzerin_twitter
    When is hackathon ?
    Nitin
    @nitinator
    @mirzerin_twitter - We had logistical issues and then it was getting too close to when we were putting in some key features in the database so it's postponed the hackathon for now.
    ...so "we've" postponed the hackathon for now.