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Guido Smeets
@gsmeets
I've also found the root cause now
bitovi/canjs@e9450fa
Chris Gomez
@akagomez
Beautiful! That will help.
Guido Smeets
@gsmeets
The solution is a one-liner :), I'll create a PR
Chris Gomez
@akagomez
@gsmeets Cool! Link it here when you do.
Matthew Phillips
@matthewp
@tracer99 will that work with inherited properties?
Terry
@tmcdonnell87
Hi - I'm wondering if can.js models can be used in a node.js environment. (I haven't found anything solid online either way.) We'd like to do some server-side orchestration - think collecting order data from various different services - and it would be great to re-use code. However, it doesn't seem to be as straightforward as I hoped, as steal is throwing some errors trying to pull in can. Is there an example somewhere in the docs, or is this a bad idea in general?
Chris Gomez
@akagomez
@tmcdonnell87 We recently started a project for dealing with this exact scenario. Check it out: http://donejs.com/
One of the beautiful aspects of the DoneJS project is that you can re-use ALL of your code on client and server (templates, components, models, etc)
@justinbmeyer @daffl and @matthewp can speak more to it if you have specific questions.
Terry
@tmcdonnell87
sweet, I'll take a look
It doesn't seem that done has been updated in a couple years - is it actively maintained?
Chris Gomez
@akagomez
@tmcdonnell87 Are you referring to the repo?
I don’t think that’s the codebase that backs http://donejs.com
I should had been clear, DoneJS is currently in an alpha/beta state.
(not sure which unfortunately)
To that point it’s primarly made up of CanJS/StealJS/DocumentJS and all of those are actively maintained.
Terry
@tmcdonnell87
ah, found the repo from npm
David Luecke
@daffl
@tmcdonnell87 The repository is at https://github.com/donejs/donejs. Working on cleaning that up a little. If you are only looking for server side rendering you also might want to have a look at the CanJS minor branch and https://github.com/canjs/can-ssr
Terry
@tmcdonnell87
we'd want both. we currently have a can.js project that's a pure-client webapp, and we're looking to add some server-side orchestration. When you say donejs is in alpha/beta, which parts are you talking about? (Canjs, steal, etc. are all released)
David Luecke
@daffl
DoneJS is the combination of CanJS + Steal + DocumentJS + FuncUnit and some other glue projects. CanJS 2.3 - which adds support for server-side rendering - is due around the end of the month. There are alpha releases for DoneJS and beta for can-ssr
Paul Tichonczuk
@tracer99
@matthewp I'm not clear on the question. In what circumstance would we care about a map inheriting? The event one might be an issue however.
avg6003
@avg6003
Can anyone tell me what is the use of ' ! ' in defining the routes?
Chris Gomez
@akagomez
Where is it documented that you should use “!” to define routes?
avg6003
@avg6003
i am reading from here http://canjs.com/guides/Routing.html
It says to define a route I have to use '#!' in begining of the rout
what is the reason to use '!' ?
I tried without using !
its working but it automatically takes !
when i press back button then it first adds ! and then I press again the back button then it goes to previous route
Chris Gomez
@akagomez
Ah! I see. I can’t say. I’ve only worked with pushstate routing.
avg6003
@avg6003
do you know any source where I can find the reason?
Chris Gomez
@akagomez
avg6003
@avg6003
thanx
let me check
avg6003
@avg6003
I didnt found any information about my question!!
Guido Smeets
@gsmeets
@akagomez a bit later than I wanted to, but here is that fix for the component's destroy method: bitovi/canjs#1886
kiwi1342
@kiwi1342
for can.components sometimes is stated that we should use the 'scope' object
and other times 'viewModel'
viewModel is more explicit and understandable. Is it obsolete to use it?
Mohamed Cherif Bouchelaghem
@cherifGsoul
can.view.tag has not it's own scope!! is there way to make this happened without using component?
Guido Smeets
@gsmeets
@kiwi1342 scope will be deprecated in 3.0, use viewModel instead
kiwi1342
@kiwi1342
Wow. Good to know thx. One small suggestion: please work on canjs documentation. Canjs has great chances to compete with other more notorious frameworks such as backbone, knockout, react/flux. It has clear
It has clear advantages on performances and it's very easy to understand but it lacks in good tutorials.
Mohamed Cherif Bouchelaghem
@cherifGsoul
kiwi1342
@kiwi1342
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Mohamed Cherif Bouchelaghem
@cherifGsoul
@kiwi1342 I think Canjs is simple and easy to understand the trick is you have to see the whole application as composite from several components (Widgets) and glue those components with an application state (routing)
kiwi1342
@kiwi1342
One example is the place-my-order app which is not completed yet. In the component first page there are two videos which use the scope property. If obsolete they should be removed or filmed again with the new properties. I'm sorry if I sound too harsh but I really believe in canjs potential and have great expectations!
kiwi1342
@kiwi1342
@cherifGsoul you are absolutely right and that's what I was looking for for the past month. I've also asked for help on the JavaScriptmvc forum but no replies. https://forum.javascriptmvc.com/#Topic/32525000001855001