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Leath Cooper
@IcculusC
is this a bit
Justin Meyer
@justinbmeyer
ok, let me reread what you wrote with that understanding
Thomas Sieverding
@Bajix
It’s quite literally a document to represent the Websocket connection info
Justin Meyer
@justinbmeyer
(or if you could translate this into Todo or some other type ... that might be helpful)
I want to be able to query all todos, then separately query all todos for a given user
And then have a websocket API that pushes out todos data
does that still ring true?
Thomas Sieverding
@Bajix
Essentially I want can.List’s that don’t hit the API, but will pick up any instances matching it’s set logic
And I want to do so without removing any superMap behavior
Then I’d load in data indirectly
Christopher Oliphant
@RALifeCoach
I tried using superMap within my stache. I gave up, even with a lot of help from Thomas.
Thomas Sieverding
@Bajix
;o
Leath Cooper
@IcculusC
well now I know who to go to once I get my feathers side built out!
Christopher Oliphant
@RALifeCoach
Now I use can-connect and execute a get in the component inserted event
Thomas Sieverding
@Bajix
I’ve got a use case in which I could side-load data using the MongoDB aggregate pipeline in order to take advantage of the $group stage.
Justin Meyer
@justinbmeyer
@RALifeCoach use a define value in your view models
@Bajix so you want the fall-through cache initially, but after that cache-requests?
Christopher Oliphant
@RALifeCoach
@justinbmeyer I would love to see a working non-docs example. My get was a json file, not a rest api.
Justin Meyer
@justinbmeyer
non-docs?
Thomas Sieverding
@Bajix
@justinbmeyer Yes, and I want to do so without removing any behavior
Justin Meyer
@justinbmeyer
what do you mean by "removing any behavior"?
what behavior are you thinking would be removed?
Christopher Oliphant
@RALifeCoach
Your toDo example from the docs I’m sure works. But the world is more complex than that.
Justin Meyer
@justinbmeyer
more complex app
Thomas Sieverding
@Bajix
I mean that I want to use every behavior associated with superMap
Justin Meyer
@justinbmeyer
yeah, that's fine
so the problem is really keeping localStorage
it's really easy to drop that and bring in cache-requests
and everything would work
Christopher Oliphant
@RALifeCoach
And even in the ToDo example you gloss over the API portion. I want an example where the rest api already exists and doesn’t conform to standards
Leath Cooper
@IcculusC
lol is bitballs a real thing you made @justinbmeyer
Thomas Sieverding
@Bajix
@justinbmeyer What issue is there here with localStorage?
Justin Meyer
@justinbmeyer
sorry, not localStorage
the problem is with the fall-through-cache
@IcculusC yeah?
@Bajix you could swap the fall-through-cache strategy with cache-requests
and you'd pretty much have what you want
Christopher Oliphant
@RALifeCoach
@justinbmeyer the bitballs example assumes standard API calls. I don’t have control over the API end and that is true for most developers working on legacy systems.
Justin Meyer
@justinbmeyer
sure, but that has nothing to do with using "inserted" to load data
Thomas Sieverding
@Bajix
Ok
Leath Cooper
@IcculusC
just curious, I looked at you guys for a job a while back and saw that you are CEO and "basketballer"
Christopher Oliphant
@RALifeCoach
I would love to use stache loading, but I spent 4 days beating my head against that wall before conceeding defeat
Justin Meyer
@justinbmeyer
I'm not sure what stache loading is
@Bajix cache-requests always will hit what's in the store
so if you loaded all data ... then loaded a subset ... it will never go back to the server
it's really good for real-time
Thomas Sieverding
@Bajix
@justinbmeyer What would prevent it from automatically using data-url?
Justin Meyer
@justinbmeyer
it uses data-url if it doesn't have the data already
say you wrote
Todo.getList({})