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Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
ok so far so good i understand the example :) i will do the same with some of my alternates
Eben
@eben-roux
@frank-dspeed thanks for the feedback
I haven't quite narrowed down when it happens but I have a "standard" route with the associated data
I wouldn't expect changing the route.data would result in a refresh of the app
anyway, I am not quite sure when it happens so I'll keep an eye out for something that is reproducible
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
i think its the expected behavior
as soon as you know what exactly happens befor reload
you also have the solution :)
so at last with canjs 4 you will get light
Eben
@eben-roux
hopefully canjs 4 will not have many breaking changes.
but then again, there is a major version number change
it takes me forever to update everything each time and my current solutions are miniscule
this was one of the things that annoyed me with ember
Kevin Phillips
@phillipskevin
we're starting to track them here: canjs/canjs#3781
Eben
@eben-roux
we had to schedule a 300 person team for a 4-6 week period to upgrade our application
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
i understand that part i know what you mean but canjs offers code mods
did you try them @eben-roux ?
Eben
@eben-roux
the codemods are great but if they don't change absolutely everything then a company is back to spending money for an upgrade
Kevin Phillips
@phillipskevin
we had to schedule a 300 person team for a 4-6 week period to upgrade our application
wow
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
i can only say
as soon as i have the needed knowleg for a intefration such problems will not happen anymore
streams are so amazing solid and simply logical
:D
you see where the change comes from where it leads to and you can debug easy
Eben
@eben-roux
@phillipskevin so I just loaded the front-end quickly to see what version they are on:
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now... end of Jan 2018 I have been gone 2 years!
they haven't moved
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
eheheheh ya that happens often
Kevin Phillips
@phillipskevin
oh, that was for upgrading an Ember app
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
in Africa windows 95 powred ATM still exist
:D
i my self found out that EU and US ATM's now running on chrome
Eben
@eben-roux
yip... and Ember is on 2.17 at the moment... so they're way behind
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
opened the dev console to surf the net
when i have no wlan :)
i am surfing via window.location in the dev tools on the ATM
:D
Eben
@eben-roux
just before I left I actually pushed for just picking another option and I was pushing for canjs
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
canjs is still a good option
Eben
@eben-roux
was negotiating with Justin and... I think Brian or some such... anyway
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
but i have always the same case
some times the apps stop working because of little refactors
and after that it takes ages to recover
thats why i want to use the nativ stuff :)
Eben
@eben-roux
the point is that companies cannot always afford the time and effort to "upgrade"... and by the time I left they had spent ZAR1,000,000,000 (that's 1 BILLION Rand)
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
Rand is this indian currency right?
Eben
@eben-roux
now, at the time you paid around 10-12 Rand for a dollar so in the vacinity of a $100 million project
and even they haven't bothered