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Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
did you try them @eben-roux ?
Eben
@eben-roux
the codemods are great but if they don't change absolutely everything then a company is back to spending money for an upgrade
Kevin Phillips
@phillipskevin
we had to schedule a 300 person team for a 4-6 week period to upgrade our application
wow
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
i can only say
as soon as i have the needed knowleg for a intefration such problems will not happen anymore
streams are so amazing solid and simply logical
:D
you see where the change comes from where it leads to and you can debug easy
Eben
@eben-roux
@phillipskevin so I just loaded the front-end quickly to see what version they are on:
image.png
now... end of Jan 2018 I have been gone 2 years!
they haven't moved
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
eheheheh ya that happens often
Kevin Phillips
@phillipskevin
oh, that was for upgrading an Ember app
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
in Africa windows 95 powred ATM still exist
:D
i my self found out that EU and US ATM's now running on chrome
Eben
@eben-roux
yip... and Ember is on 2.17 at the moment... so they're way behind
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
opened the dev console to surf the net
when i have no wlan :)
i am surfing via window.location in the dev tools on the ATM
:D
Eben
@eben-roux
just before I left I actually pushed for just picking another option and I was pushing for canjs
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
canjs is still a good option
Eben
@eben-roux
was negotiating with Justin and... I think Brian or some such... anyway
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
but i have always the same case
some times the apps stop working because of little refactors
and after that it takes ages to recover
thats why i want to use the nativ stuff :)
Eben
@eben-roux
the point is that companies cannot always afford the time and effort to "upgrade"... and by the time I left they had spent ZAR1,000,000,000 (that's 1 BILLION Rand)
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
Rand is this indian currency right?
Eben
@eben-roux
now, at the time you paid around 10-12 Rand for a dollar so in the vacinity of a $100 million project
and even they haven't bothered
lol
Kevin Phillips
@phillipskevin
yeah, definitely understand that
Eben
@eben-roux
just saying :)
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
@eben-roux your not alone with this :)
i have the same issues thats why i think only the nativ api's can save us
Eben
@eben-roux
I have seen Justin's post on canjs 4 and perhaps I'll chime in... but stability is key
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
they need to get defined
Eben
@eben-roux
something like Log4Net hasn't changed in about 100 years and that... is... AWESOME
Kevin Phillips
@phillipskevin
a lot of what we're doing with breaking things into small packages and separating out stateful packages is driven by exactly this
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
i think its also javascript related at all
as its weak typed
Eben
@eben-roux
and "awesoem" is a word I don't like so I don't use it much
in the .Net world with ..Net Core there seems to be a tendency to break things into smaller bits as well...
there are pros and cons either way... all about balance
Frank Lemanschik
@frank-dspeed
ya but mainting this small things leads also to tons of failurs
my most problems are resulting from the modlet structure