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    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    Dear all, registration for the thank you for your kind comments concerning the above-mentioned abstract.
    The Open Search SYMposium registration via event https://indico.cern.ch/event/883268/ opens, normally, today. The organiser (Andreas Wagner) will confirm. If you register, we can use this opportunity to hold our 2nd CERN-Solid meeting on Monday morning, Wednesday afternoon or Thursday. What do you think?
    Mitzi László
    @Mitzi-Laszlo
    Hi Maria, did you see my email about Solid World August too?
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    Hej Mitzi! I was away, as mentioned in email. The message I received is about "Solid World September", not August..., so not sure what you mean. I'll answer you and Sarven in email on the specific questions you each asked.
    Mitzi László
    @Mitzi-Laszlo
    Nice, yes, dates not confirmed yet, keen to gauge your interest generally first
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    Following a video meeting Mitzi and I had now, it that the autumn Solid World webinar will take place on Thursday October 1st at 4PM. Academic and research Solid collaborators participate in such webinars. So, please keep the date and more details will appear here soon.
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    Dear all, please have a look at this nice list of Solid collaborating labs https://solidproject.org/labs.
    Lets discuss between now and the autumn Solid World webinar will take place on Thursday October 1st at 4PM how to best learn from each other.
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    You can see on https://solidproject.org/events what these Solid World webinars are like. There will be none in August and September.
    Michiel de Jong
    @michielbdejong
    will be "one" or will be "none"?
    Michiel de Jong
    @michielbdejong
    Or you mean CERN will not be presenting there
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    Bedankt Michiel for noticing. CERN will definitely present nothing on August 6th. My understanding from the meeting with Mitzi is that there is no Solid World in August or September. I know nothing about this eventbrite page. Please check internally with the Solid team.
    Mitzi László
    @Mitzi-Laszlo
    Solid World happens every first Thursday of the month, keep up to date about Solid World via https://solidproject.org/events
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    Yes, and sorry for having wrongly understood... There will be a Solid World webinar on August 6th @ 4PM CEST. It would be very useful if the CERN people in this gitter joined by registering here.
    Hannah Short
    @hannahshort
    Thanks Maria and Mitzi, have signed up
    Mitzi László
    @Mitzi-Laszlo
    fantastic :) See you there!
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    Reminder for those in this chat who aren't in the CERN CDA mattermost: Sir Tim will speak in the next Solid World this Thursday at 4 PM.
    Hannah Short
    @hannahshort
    Morning everyone - have there been any efforts so far to integrate Solid with existing Identity Federations? I'm thinking particularly of eduGAIN which includes (SAML) IdPs from around 4000 universities and research organisations. I don't have enough knowledge about Solid's authentication mechanisms to know how feasible this is - has it been looked into?
    Mitzi László
    @Mitzi-Laszlo
    Hi @hannahshort perhaps you would be interested in joining an authentication panel call and bringing that up. The calls happen every Monday at 1600CEST - you can find more deatils on https://solidproject.org/standardisation including the dial in link
    Hannah Short
    @hannahshort
    Thanks @Mitzi-Laszlo
    Michiel de Jong
    @michielbdejong
    @hannahshort hi! yes, and one of the issues we run into there is that in the current model, institutions need to publicly expose a full list of all their employees, which doesn't scale well and raises privacy concerns. One option is to hash identities so they're obfuscated, but that leaves the scalability issue of size of access groups (we haven't really tried this with groups of more than 50 webid's, let alone 50,000 or 50,000,000. :) So for that problem, Joep and I arrived at the conclusion that we would need something like solid/web-access-control-spec#79.
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    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    I created myself a Solid community login, to be able to access the Solid roadmap tasks' table. Why does one need a W3C login in order to access the W3C Solid community?
    In a time when people work for years on Federated Identities, so many required logins...
    Sarven Capadisli
    @csarven
    @mariadimou I think https://www.w3.org/community/solid/participants is publicly accessible.
    Michiel de Jong
    @michielbdejong
    I think her point was that the www.w3.org website should allow "Login with your webid" :)
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    @michielbdejong Yes, thanks! This is what I meant.
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou

    I created myself a Solid community login, to be able to access the Solid roadmap tasks' table. Why does one need a W3C login in order to access the W3C Solid community?
    In a time when people work for years on Federated Identities, so many required logins...

    I got no answer to the above question. May I kindly ask @hannahshort to ask for an answer at the 4PM call today please?

    Sarven Capadisli
    @csarven
    Hi @hannahshort
    Hannah Short
    @hannahshort
    @mariadimou I did ask and there has already been work done on allowing non-Solid-specific identity providers to authenticate users. It hasn't yet been implemented in one of the existing WebID providers but is being kept in mind.
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    Thanks @hannahshort and all. My notes from the August 6th event are imminent, except that there are things to fix on https://solidproject.org/events and https://solidos.solid.community/Team/ (requires a solid community login).
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    Dear all, please see in https://indico.cern.ch/e/August2020SolidWorld my notes. Those of you who were connected and have comments, please let me know. Follow the link from https://solidproject.org/events to enroll in the September 3rd event.
    Jan Schill
    @janschill

    Hello cern-solid,

    my name is Jan and I am Computer Science student currently in my 3rd semester of the Master‘s at ITU Copenhagen.
    I learned about Solid from RightsCon and would love to contribute to the Solid project in form of a research project (7.5 ECTS course) and a consecutive Master‘s thesis in the 4th semester.
    I had a video chat with @Mitzi-Laszlo and she pointed me into this direction. I‘ve also had a look at the Roadmap by Tim, which is hard to decompose as someone who is not as involved yet.
    My areas of interest are currently very focused on software development/engineering (which is my study specialization). I also work as a Ruby on Rails backend developer. In my Bachelor‘s thesis I spent a lot of time in the IETF RFCs: HTTP, HTML, URI etc., which I quite enjoyed.
    The current structure of my studies with the research project and then thesis, allows me to start off by acquiring knowledge in one field and then do the actual research in my thesis. I hope this makes sense.

    Thank you for your time and I hope we can somehow connect and make something work.

    Best
    Jan

    Michiel de Jong
    @michielbdejong
    Welcome, Jan!
    Pedro Ferreira
    @pferreir
    Welcome @janschill
    Jan Schill
    @janschill
    Thank you!
    Sarven Capadisli
    @csarven
    @janschill Great, I think you'll find yourself pretty comfortable around Solid. Happy to point you to stuff. I'm one of the contributors - as an editor - to Solid specifications. What area of work interests you? or what kind of work would b e suitable for your R&D? My PhD dissertation looked into the application of Solid in scholarly communication - you may want to have a glance at least on a conceptual level even if the domain/field isn't: https://csarven.ca/linked-research-decentralised-web . It is a Linked Data document hosted on a Solid server which also showcases Solid application (dokieli) that I've developed. My no-so-secret wish is that, you will also publish your thesis on your own Web site ;)
    Jan Schill
    @janschill
    @csarven thank you! I will definitely give your dissiertation a read – sounds very interesting. Those are good questions:
    1. My interests are not that defined, I am in the stage where I enjoy everything related to web, privacy, education, software development, sustainability. Giving it an attempt though:
      1. I really like to build a bridge between technology and less tech-savvy people: Why should the average user care about data privacy? How can something like Solid be implemented, that someone who does not know yet that he/she cares about their data, would use it primarily.
    2. My R&D is flexible. The research project that I have this semester, is intended to give me time to study up on something, so I can focus next semester on researching and developing my thesis. This semester could be for example something like: what is Linked Data and ADR; how do they compare to the current state of the web; how do they work on top of the web. It does not have to be (groundbreaking) research yet.
      I hope this makes sense.
      My domain and web server are in desperate need for something, so I will definitely host the thesis on it and trying out a Solid server seems like a good idea to get more familiar.
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    Dear all, at last, the agenda of the next Solid World Webinar on October 1st at 4PM CEST is now published here. Sir TimBL will give an update on the Solid roadmap. You can see here notes from the last such update.
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    Happy to announce that @janschill started working on the CERN-Solid code investigation project for his MSc. Thanks to @Mitzi-Laszlo for putting us in touch, to @timbl for commenting on the project and to @pferreir for helping us to define a useful and achievable goal. Thank you @janschill for your good work and enthusiasm!
    Jan Schill
    @janschill
    Thank you @mariadimou for your support!
    Michiel de Jong
    @michielbdejong
    @janschill welcome! Let's chat soon! :)
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    For info: these are my notes from the 2020/10/01 Solid World webinar. They can be reached from the CERN-Solid Indico category.
    @Mitzi-Laszlo and/or @michielbdejong , do you think it would be useful to link them from the materials column of https://solidproject.org/events?
    Michiel de Jong
    @michielbdejong
    @mariadimou sure! do you see an 'edit' pencil icon there?
    you can edit the markdown of that page and create a pull request
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    Bedankt! I shall.
    Sarven Capadisli
    @csarven
    @janschill Glad to hear that you are incorporating Solid specs into your MSc. thesis.
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    I gave this talk at the Open Search SYMposium and got the link to https://mydata.org/ by Per Oester. MyData is a movement aiming to make us as individuals in control of data collected about us. Is there any connection, exchange, relations with Solid teams?
    Pedro Ferreira
    @pferreir
    @mariadimou is there a recording of your talk by any chance?
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    Thanks @pferreir for your interest. I asked the @a-1-wagner who is organising the event and he said only keynote speakers are being recorded. He offered to record me but I thought it is too arrogant to be treated differently from other speakers. So, no recording. Slides at the end of this page is all we have.
    Pedro Ferreira
    @pferreir
    OK, it's a pity, but I'm sure it was great! Any particular reactions/questions?
    mariadimou
    @mariadimou
    Only the Per Oester's comment on mydata.org that I published above. @michielbdejong and @janschill said "very good" and @a-1-wagner said "good, useful, a bit long".