These are chat archives for chocolatey/ChocolateyGUI

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Mar 2018
Schneehexe
@Schneehexe
Mar 27 2018 07:48
Hello, I tried Chocolatey, but the most of the packages failed during the installation
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 07:50
@Schneehexe can you give an example of an application that you have tried to install?
Schneehexe
@Schneehexe
Mar 27 2018 07:51
ADW Cleaner failed, CCEnhancer failed, Revo Uninstaller failed, Sandboxie installing was ok, but it isn't compatible with the windows version.....
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 07:53
Can you please confirm what version of Chocolatey GUI you are using?
Schneehexe
@Schneehexe
Mar 27 2018 07:53
Yes, 0.16.0 (February 15, 2018)
Sorry, it is 0.10.9
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 07:56
Hmm, I have just tried installed ADW Cleaner using Chocolatey GUI, and it has worked fine for me. Can you please go to the C:/programdata/Chocolatey GUI/logs folder and add them to the tickets that you raised on the GitHub issues
0.10.9 is the version number of Chocolatey, not Chocolatey GUI
Schneehexe
@Schneehexe
Mar 27 2018 07:57
GUI is Yes, 0.16.0 (February 15, 2018)
where are the tickets?
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 07:59
You created this issue, right? chocolatey/ChocolateyGUI#579
Ah, looks like you already have the logs in there
Can you confirm what version of PowerShell you have installed on this machine?
Schneehexe
@Schneehexe
Mar 27 2018 08:00
yes, the logs are in the issues
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 08:00
Also, what operating system?
Schneehexe
@Schneehexe
Mar 27 2018 08:00
windows 7 ultimate
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build 7601
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 08:05
So, from the error message, it looks like some of the core PowerShell cmdlets are missing when Chocolatey is running, i..e Invoke-WebRequest. I am assuming that if you open up a PowerShell window, and type Invoke-WebRequest and hit enter, that it will come back and prompt you for some input. Correct? I have seen this sort of problem once before, but as yet, we haven't been able to find a solution.
@ferventcoder ^^
Schneehexe
@Schneehexe
Mar 27 2018 08:07
I dont know to open a "powershell-window"
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 08:07
For the revo installation, it looks like the package itself is out of date. There is a workaround provided in the error message
same with ccenhancer
Schneehexe
@Schneehexe
Mar 27 2018 08:12
on the one hand, chocolatey is a good idea, at the oter hand - is chocolatey the right solution? It may have many problems. I think, I try it next year again.
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 08:25
Unfortunately, the issues that you are seeing are not really anything to do with Chocolatey, but rather the Chocolatey packages that you are trying to install. Those are two seperate things, and need to be treated as such.
Schneehexe
@Schneehexe
Mar 27 2018 08:25
the sandboxie, chocolatey has installed this, the programm isn't compatible with the windows. Now the uninstall fails. one more corpse in the cellar.
fact is, chocolatey ist a paketmanager. this shall help to provide. but it is more easy to install the programs manually after downloading from the projectsite.
5 programs to attemt, 4 fails....
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 08:29
Well, that is your opinion, and I am happy for you to have it. I on the other hand believe differently. For me, installing using Chocolatey is a far superior way of installing, and updating packages. I have been using it for over 7 years, without any major problems.
As I have mentioned, out of the packages that you have attempted, at least two of them are out of date, and need some attention. I would suggest that you reach out to the maintainers of those packages, and ask them to address the issues that are contained within them.
Schneehexe
@Schneehexe
Mar 27 2018 08:37
But you see the problems on my site? It doesn't work? Why not? Thats not the question of the user. One week before the same problem with Totalcomander. Chat, Ticket, Issue..... then it works. This all only to install ONE program? And after the next Version of the program the same? Why the solution is not, that the error on the userside makes a request to the maintainer, that it doesn't work?
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 08:39
@Schneehexe if you have suggestions on how we can improve this, I am open to hearing them. However, bear in mind that Chocolatey is an Open Source application, and the maintainers of the packages are doing so in their spare time.
Schneehexe
@Schneehexe
Mar 27 2018 08:45
I know this, its commendable of course. I like to have open source where possible an I like to contribute therefore. I tried chocolatey as an easy way to keep my open source software updatet, but I learned on my side, this is not the way.
Many thanks for your assistance.
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 08:50
I am truly sorry that you feel this way, as it is not what a lot of people think.
Schneehexe
@Schneehexe
Mar 27 2018 08:56
Maybe most of them are Win10 Users, so that these packages are better maintained and reported. For example, ADW Cleaner is an important program and no one seems to see, tghat the packet dosn't work.
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 08:57
as I mentioned, that package installed perfectly happily for me, without any errors.
Schneehexe
@Schneehexe
Mar 27 2018 08:59
why i fails on my side?
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 08:59
in all honesty, I am not sure.
Schneehexe
@Schneehexe
Mar 27 2018 09:00
Ok, thanks an have a nice day!
Rob Reynolds
@ferventcoder
Mar 27 2018 11:22
@gep13 Invoke-WebRequest isn't used by Chocolatey b/c it doesn't exist in PowerShell v2
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 11:24
oh, that is a very good point!
Rob Reynolds
@ferventcoder
Mar 27 2018 11:25
Whoever put that in the packaging needs to be set straight
that would be @dtgm :-(
So that would suggest that @Schneehexe is using PowerShell 2, and hence why the error occurred
Rob Reynolds
@ferventcoder
Mar 27 2018 11:26
Microsoft may have deprecated posh v2, but we won't be able to until at least 2020 when Win7/Win2008 are out of support
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 11:26
:+1:
Rob Reynolds
@ferventcoder
Mar 27 2018 11:27
I think we need to add something like a shim that might support that in v2
Or add something to validator to fail when it sees that
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 11:28
Yip, that would be a good idea!
Ah, there is one already
But only a guideline
perhaps that needs to be bumpd up a level?
Rob Reynolds
@ferventcoder
Mar 27 2018 11:32
Or separated and then bumped up
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 11:33
yip, that would work
Rob Reynolds
@ferventcoder
Mar 27 2018 11:33
@Schneehexe apologies - it looks like some of the checks and balances for POSH v2 have failed for the community repo. Hopefully when you try again next year you will see very few failures
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Mar 27 2018 11:34
chocolatey/package-validator#177