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Paul Broadwith
@pauby
So if I am on Windows 7 (or Windows 8) and I try to install the package, what happens?
Kim J. Nordmo
@AdmiringWorm
I am not sure, according to the changelog of the installer an invalid exit code would happen and fail the installation.
But without testing it in a VM I can not say for sure (and currently do not have a VM set up to test in either unfortunately)
Paul Broadwith
@pauby
Would it not be a better user experience if we handled this in the code? That way we control the experience / message? It also saves the users who have os's that are not supported downloading a binary that we know won't work for them?
Naveen M K
@naveen521kk

That's what I asked for. :wink:

(nor windows 8 which was also dropped)

Windows 8 is supported though. Only windows 7 is not.

Kim J. Nordmo
@AdmiringWorm

Windows 8 is supported though. Only windows 7 is not.

No, windows 8.1 is supported, not windows 8

Would it not be a better user experience if we handled this in the code? That way we control the experience / message? It also saves the users who have os's that are not supported downloading a binary that we know won't work for them?

If the package only handled the latest version, then yes I would agree that adding os checking and report unsupported OS's should be added, but seeing as the package upader also checks if there are updates for older version it would mean that either we need to mix in logic that would not be relevant on older versions, or duplicating the installation scripts. Neither of which I see as a viable option in the long run

Paul Broadwith
@pauby

Can somebody point me to the package so I can have a look as I don't understand this:

but seeing as the package upader also checks if there are updates for older version

Kim J. Nordmo
@AdmiringWorm

@pauby https://github.com/chocolatey-community/chocolatey-coreteampackages/tree/master/automatic/python3

the updater for the package also checks if there are updates for any other major+minor version of python3 (as part of different streams).
but the same files are used no matter which version the updater updates to.
So if there is a new bugfix for 3.7 for instance, having a check in the package that reports it doesn't support windows 7 or 8 would be wrong, as that version should still support those (AFAIK).

Paul Broadwith
@pauby
So a user on Windows 7 / 8 installs the Python 3 package (version 3.9), which goes on to download the Python 3.9 installer and tries to install it and exits with a specific exit code? What do they see? It sounds like they just see a 'failed install'?
RB
@RedBaron2
@pauby @AdmiringWorm The current chocolatey code doesn't allow a user the choice to download the binary regardless of checksum, OS, or network issues.
Paul Broadwith
@pauby
@RedBaron2 Can you elaborate?
RB
@RedBaron2
@pauby Chocolatey choco issue #1096
The chocolatiest bot this side of the Mississippi
@choco-bot
Issue 1096: Question over non-checksum should come up before any downloads occur chocolatey/choco#1096
RB
@RedBaron2
Chocolatey currently doesn't have any OS specific function to exclude or include packages for a specific OS. Everything is lumped together (ex: Dropbox) this will include packages for certain KB that are installed via chocolatey but are only needed for the test environment or some servers
Chocolatey will detect a users proxy but won't detect server speed. The speed of a download for a package is limited to the third party even if downloaded from the chocolatey cached server.
Paul Broadwith
@pauby
@RedBaron2 Okay. I'm not understanding the context for this and why the choco issues are being brought up here?
RB
@RedBaron2
If your network has issues chocolatey will continue to try and download the package until finished our the user closes the shell they are using.
@pauby you mentioned about python 3 and it now but being windows 7 support.
Oops not
RB
@RedBaron2
@pauby I'll let you get back to moderating. Have a good day.
The chocolatiest bot this side of the Mississippi
@choco-bot
Good 'aye!, RB (RedBaron2)
Paul Broadwith
@pauby
Okay, I didn't get the context as that was back at the start of October.
I'd need to dig into that again, but I was left with the impression that more could be done to enhance the user experience.
Érico Vieira Porto
@ericoporto
hey, what is the gitter channel to talk about community packages?
I have a package failing here (https://chocolatey.org/packages/ags/3.5.0.25) due to vcredist140 package.
William Gathoye
@wget
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/2020-December/010982.html
I'm following this carefully, but LibreOffice may be only offered as a rolling release branch now: now more still, no more fresh.
LTS will remain the exclusive of partners of the ecosystem like Collabora Office.
Miodrag Milić
@majkinetor
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This is record number of updates ^_^
William Gathoye
@wget
@pauby I have well received your emails wrt. openvpn. Sorry I wasn't able to respect the deadline I proposed in the comment section. Had a domestic incident and lost usage of my right hand. Was busy with medical operation stuff :/ Will check at it since I now have "free" time. Typing at one hand is weird but I'm still managing to code ^^
Paul Broadwith
@pauby
@wget I'm just getting to this now. I'm sorry to hear about what happened. I hope things improve soon!
Miodrag Milić
@majkinetor
bot had to make it akward
William Gathoye
@wget
https://github.com/chocolatey-community/chocolatey-coreteampackages
can we have access to a debug rdp for the core team packages? Libreoffice is not updating while locally on my side it is
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
@wget just to confirm, are you testing with the Chocolatey Test Environment locally?
William Gathoye
@wget
yes i'm it complains the au worm is not found
maybe i'm gonna reclone the vagrant env and start from scratch
Mark Sellars
@mark-sellars
Hey William I got your reply on the Libre package
thanks so much for the responses by the way!
William Gathoye
@wget
@mark-sellars no issue, tryin my best to address any question, especially with that package which has quite a lot of traction :p
Mark Sellars
@mark-sellars
@wget One thing I can do for you if you want is we can use something like Jitsi meet and you can try it out on my environment.
William Gathoye
@wget
oh sure we can, but jitsi meet is just audio and sharing a screen and doesn't (afaik) offer remote control like teamviewer and the like?
i'll be back in 45 min. if you don't mind :)
Mark Sellars
@mark-sellars
@wget Yeah, if there is another application you like let me know. I have blue jeans and webex available at work. What ever I want available at home.
William Gathoye
@wget
We are following in DM to avoid the noise. We will write down the solution here wrt this issue after the meeting :)
William Gathoye
@wget
Ok. Meeting with @mark-sellars finished. He will provide me with the logs. On my side, I filled a request to the Choco sales team in order to get a Pro and a C4B license from you @ferventcoder =)
wget
@wget:matrix.org
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Hello from [matrix] :)
Érico Vieira Porto
@ericoporto
Hey, my ags package is failing on test again but I don't understand what is wrong
Érico Vieira Porto
@ericoporto
Sorry, I can't reproduce the Could not load file or assembly 'Microsoft.PowerShell.Security, Version=5.0.0.0' or one of its dependencies. and similar errors, I thin it's something with the test environment.
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
@ericoporto have you tested your package using the test environment?
Érico Vieira Porto
@ericoporto
It doesn't match the output I am seeing in the gist file.
Also if I do a rerun I just get a different gist file, most of them just stop at a point without any messages, it's weird because this isn't even installing my package, it's a different package that is my dependency.
And the other package IS approved.