These are chat archives for coala/pycon-india

25th
Mar 2016
@/all
@/all also maybe somebody wants to do a "How to contribute to open source" workshop? https://in.pycon.org/cfp/2016/proposals/
-> that makes it more likely for them to fund you ;)
Karan Sharma
@mr-karan
Mar 25 2016 13:56
Funding is not a problem for me. The venue is hardly 30kms away from my place :P
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 14:26
hey can somebody contact the organizers to see if we can have a stand there?
adding @Udayan12167 , he mentioned he'd be interested to join
and he has lots of t shirts and stickers and stuff :)
abhsag24 @abhsag24 will finally have a sticker! :P
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 14:30
@sils1297 I know some of the organizers. I will ask them.
@sils1297 PyCon 2015 had devsprints https://in.pycon.org/blog/2015/dev-sprint.html
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 14:31
like a hackfest?
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 14:31
@sils1297 Instead of a workshop, we could do something like this for coala and open source
@sils1297 kind of, yes
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 14:31
we could do both
some people like the workshop format
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 14:32
@sils1297 I see.
Karan Sharma
@mr-karan
Mar 25 2016 14:48
@sils1297 I'm added to the volunteers group of PyCon on Telegram. For a stand I think one needs to be a sponsor?
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 14:49
I have no idea
we won't be able to sponsor anybody :P
that I can pretty much guarantee
Karan Sharma
@mr-karan
Mar 25 2016 14:51
Yeah that part I am pretty sure about but will ask anyway. If they can support Open source orgs
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 14:52
this is about open source isn't it?
can you throw me in? telegram.me/sils1297
Karan Sharma
@mr-karan
Mar 25 2016 15:17
Added you.
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 15:19
thanks
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 15:59
I pinged who seems to be the organizer privately about the stand issue
lets see what he says
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 16:06
he'll pass on the query somewhere so something may happen :)
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 16:07
nice!
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 16:32
did you people see the discussion?
basically they recommend us taking an "open space" which is a discussion
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 16:33
no that is not what we want
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 16:33
we should offer stickers for workshop and discussion attendees I think
I know but they won't give us a stand it seems
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 16:33
what would we discuss about?
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 16:34
I don't know yet
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 16:34
open spaces are in a way casual talks that wouldn't fit in the forte of the conference
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 16:34
but I think if you think about it there'll be lots of interesting topics
Karan Sharma
@mr-karan
Mar 25 2016 16:34
let's hope for getting a workshop accepted atleast
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 16:34
it's not a stand but it's another interesting concept to try out IMO
Karan Sharma
@mr-karan
Mar 25 2016 16:35
I've been to Pycon 2015, open spaces are interesting, yes. But we need to prepare content for that too
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 16:36
@mr-karan can you try organizing that?
Karan Sharma
@mr-karan
Mar 25 2016 16:36
Disadvantage: Won't be mentioned anywhere in the schedule.
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 16:36
@mr-karan how does an "open space" look like anyway?
Karan Sharma
@mr-karan
Mar 25 2016 16:37
@sils1297 It's mostly planned a week before the main conference AFAIK.
Last year there were few rooms where around 20-30 people sat and discussed stuff. Was very quick session, not more than 20 minutes
And it's not mentioned on the schedule so most of the people come to know about open spaces of XYZ through other people present at the conf only.
I missed a few open spaces discussion last year because I didn't know they were happening !!
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 16:41
@mr-karan do you think an open space is okay for promoting stuff?
Ideally we want something that is available throughout the duration of the conference
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 16:41
well we can place a pile of stickers at the entry

Ideally we want something that is available throughout the duration of the conference

yes indeed but they claim they don't have the space to give us that

if we don't sponsor
Karan Sharma
@mr-karan
Mar 25 2016 16:41
And besides open spaces we have poster presentation as well.
That would be available throughout whole day
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 16:42
I think it'd be good anyway if we had somebody doing a "Get started with open source" workshop where people do a contribution to coala and learn all the git stuff ish?
Karan Sharma
@mr-karan
Mar 25 2016 16:43
Yeah. pick issues from newcomer label and start coding
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 16:43
and maybe a third workshop targeted towards users of coala
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 16:43
why not a dev sprint for that?
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 16:43
and maybe a third workshop targeted towards users of coala
i.e. set up coala for their projects in the workshop
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 16:44
we could teach all of the git stuff there too
Karan Sharma
@mr-karan
Mar 25 2016 16:44
Dev sprint would be great IMO
We won't be able to get 3 workshops specifically for coala to be honest
Will you be coming to Pycon India? @SanketDG We'll host open space together
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 16:46
Yeah sure, first time, pretty excited :D
We will need content for the open space though
I say we talk about static analysis in the open space, and how coala helps in that?
Karan Sharma
@mr-karan
Mar 25 2016 16:47
Alright. I'll ask some people who did an open space session at last year Pycon
They could give us some tips
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 16:48
cool :+1:
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 16:51
so FWIW I'm not convinced of the open spaces thing yet... though it reaches a lot of people. I think the following would be neat:
  • A workshop on writing bears as proposed by @mr-karan , I'd make it more generic and not tailored to linter bears though. I'm not sure if a bear for each participant is a realistic goal.
  • A workshop or an open space or a talk or something about using coala
  • A workshop on how to contribute to open source. It's important that this one is generic, using coala as an example is ok but the goals and contents should be generic. What people learn here is applicable to other projects oo.
  • A dev sprint is something where you get a room for a few days IIUC, we should have that too, gain new users and contributors or just use it as our own little hackfest.
if people do something particularly cool on the workshop they can get a t shirt :)
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 16:54
Agreed.
sils @sils1297 likes his masterplan to take over PyCon India completely.
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 16:55
would three talks/workshops from a single org be alloted?
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 16:55
I have no idea it's voted, right?
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 16:56
well yeah, but votes are not the only factor, @mr-karan thoughts?
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 16:56
I think we just have to make the proposals too good to reject them
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 16:56
yeah :D
sils @sils1297 guesses that they won't accept everything indeed though
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 16:57
still we can try
FWIW workshops are good for the conf!
like really good
they make money with that
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 16:57
yeah :D
so this are my ideas:
a talk about coala ( should be done in every conf IMHO)
a dev sprint (external or internal, we will discuss that)
a workshop about contributing to open source, at the last we write a linter bear for coala :D
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 17:00
so basicallly merge the lint and contribute workshop
Sanket Dasgupta
@SanketDG
Mar 25 2016 17:01
yes
If we can get two workshops accepted, then its okay, but this is Plan B I guess
Lasse Schuirmann
@sils
Mar 25 2016 17:01
so people coming in with a lower knowledge level would do a newcomer issue and people with a higher level can do a bear?
@mr-karan then you'll probably want to edit your workshop
Karan Sharma
@mr-karan
Mar 25 2016 17:20
Sure thing. I'll edit it ASAP