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Despo Pentara
@despo
Nice little game for practising and understanding CSS selectors. Might be worth extending the links on the tutorial page to have this and/or other similar fun home exercises
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
That looks cool.
Despo Pentara
@despo
Hey all, thanks to those who coached today and @barisbalic for hosting us. I wonder if there is anything I/we can do to get the chat going here. Do you feel that a more private channel would be better? Also, it would be great if you can encourage the people you are coaching to join the channel.
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
I was wondering if anyone had today, I think that's a good idea. Also, glad to help!
Despo Pentara
@despo
All suggestions are welcome and if you are not comfortable with posting in public just click on my avatar and chat privately.
Matt Button
@BRMatt
Is there a reason for separate gh-pages/master branches?
Despo Pentara
@despo
@BRMatt not really, i've been meaning to kill master but never got around to doing it. Are you volunteering?
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
Is it a Jekyll site?
Despo Pentara
@despo
yes, just one of the default gh-pages setups with some tweaks to get pygments working
Nayeem Syed
@developerinlondon
any devops here?
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
No but whats the problem?
@despo / @BRMatt which repo were you talking about sorry
Nayeem Syed
@developerinlondon
@barisbalic just trying to figure out a good deployment strategy. whether to tag when pushing to UAT or tag when pushing to production
using gitchangelog to create changelog files to send off to management
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
We tag when pushing to production
Your management wants to see changelogs?
Sorry I read 'diffs' when you said changelogs, do you mean actual changelogs?
Nayeem Syed
@developerinlondon
it woud be good to send some kind of a release document when we push to live, so they see whats going on
with gitchangelog u can make changelogs that are aimed at management/testers/developers etc
and just tag the commit messages properly when you commit changes
and it also takes care of putting a version number on top based on the version tag
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
Might be a nice practice but I think if management here were concerned with that level of detail I'd be an unhappy developer.
Nayeem Syed
@developerinlondon
i feel happier to keep them in the loop instead of in complete darkness
they know i am doing something and their money is being used well
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
I didn't say you should keep them in the dark either, but this would be more of a debate, I think this channel is more for the tutorials/support of codebar
Despo Pentara
@despo
@developerinlondon I'm not sure this is the right place for this questions. codebar is beginners friend, about helping people new to programming. I'm not sure if someone can suggest a better place for continuing this discussion maybe?
Matt Button
@BRMatt
cough irc cough
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
IRC?
Despo Pentara
@despo
Hey all, I noticed that some of the student feedback on yesterday's session mentioning a lot of time being spent on setting up envirnoments
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
PUPPET ALL THE THINGS!
Despo Pentara
@despo
I don't know if you missed it, however in the first Ruby tutorial we encourage use of nitrous.io - looking at it, it maybe should be highlighted more
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
I think for Nodebots events we're going to create some liveboot USB sticks
Despo Pentara
@despo
@barisbalic haha.
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
But that's not 40 people!
Despo Pentara
@despo
Oh.. that might be an idea, however, money, time, resources...
nitrous is just ready to use and we do tend to have descent internet
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
Sure, I'm a nitrous advocate too
Despo Pentara
@despo
It saves people from being frustrated and having someone else doing things on their machine for an hour or more. Also, I dont think having Ruby setup is essential to get started; maybe after getting a feel for it, they will opt for doing more JS instead - or Python. You never know.
If anyone has any suggestions on other alternatives, we can also link/mention those.
Matt Button
@BRMatt
@barisbalic Just meant an IRC channel as a better place to talk about the work stuff
:+1: on nitrous
Andrew McDonough
@andrewmcdonough
@despo - quick note about today's tutorial
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
upi ,ossed yje P!
Wow.
Again: "you missed the O!"
Andrew McDonough
@andrewmcdonough
Hey! Preemptive <etner>
Hello baris
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
Hi :)
Andrew McDonough
@andrewmcdonough
Was thinking of dropping along
The degree symbol could cause issues on ruby 1.9.x