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Despo Pentara
@despo
Does anyone have any suggestions on tools to use for creating mobile mockups? Or general advice to one of the students who is asking about some advice in setting up a presentation for an app idea?
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
My advice would be sketch them with a pencil and not fuss around so much with apps
Despo Pentara
@despo
yeah i was thinking that, i was wondering because its a more format meeting if it would have higher chances of getting her funding if it looks more polished
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
Depends on the investors, she could spin it as being pragmatic
We did use this internall for awhile: http://balsamiq.com/products/mockups/
Well some people did.
Despo Pentara
@despo
Cool! I'll tell her this. And get her to ask here next time :)
its an imperial funding scheme.
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
Sanctioned by her majesty?
Despo Pentara
@despo
:D
Camille Baldock
@camilleldn
pingdom tells me the site is down, @despo i see you are rails consoling there, anything i can help with ? :-)
Camille Baldock
@camilleldn
and it's a heroku-wide issue :-(
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
codebar is responding for me?
Despo Pentara
@despo
@camilleldn thanks, its all sorted now. heroku eu issue unfortunately
Andrew McDonough
@andrewmcdonough
Awesome to see Codebar in Wired. Nice one.
Swathi
@swathik
:+1:
Despo Pentara
@despo
yes its great. :smile: They almost got the name right, maybe we should split logo in two words, people seem to be saying 'the code bar' a lot haha
Dominic Fox
@poetix
Morning all. Signed up earlier today to do some coaching.
The session on Wed 21st is now full. It would be good to be able to register an interest anyway, so that one could be notified if another coach had to drop out.
Despo Pentara
@despo
@poetix hey. I released a couple of more spots so you should be able to sign up - if not, there is a bug..
Dominic Fox
@poetix
Ah, right, I'll try now.
Done, thanks.
Despo Pentara
@despo
@poetix also, can you open an issue about this here https://github.com/codebar/planner - or if you want to implement this, it would be awesome :D
Dominic Fox
@poetix
Great idea.
Alexander Jahraus
@fanaugen
One Month Rails (Video lessons with exercises and support, 30 minutes per day, 1 month), offer 25% discount with this code: http://onemonthrails.com/signup?discount_code=oekXez (so it’s 74 US dollars (about 45 pounds) instead of 99). This is not an ad, I’m doing the one month, hoping to up my Rails skills, and I’m looking for a "code buddy", someone to do the assignments together with me, keep each other motivated.
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
Hey @fanaugen, I would suggest, as a general rule of thumb that you avoid posting links to commercial products unless someone asks. There's no specified policy about it here, but some discussions (much like IRC channels) will have a policy against it.
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
Also #offtopic-discussions would be better for non-tutorial talk. Not that it's particularly busy in here at the moment.
Despo Pentara
@despo
I agree with @barisbalic even though I know @fanaugen meant well. The course sounds great for the more advanced students and it would be a good opportunity fot them to collaborate with a coach who is spending more time understanding Rails.
Alexander Jahraus
@fanaugen
Sorry, I meant to post it to #offtopic-discussions
Andrew McDonough
@andrewmcdonough
It's a 'no' from Sublime on free licences:

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for your email.

We do not offer free licenses of any kind; however part of the reason we offer a free unlimited trial is so students like yours can learn on Sublime Text without the burden of paying for it.

Version 3 is now available to trial too: www.sublimetext.com/3

Cheers

Sales Team
Sublime HQ PTY LTD

Should we be recommending an alternative that is more 'free'? Or just putting up with the nagware?
Despo Pentara
@despo
@andrewmcdonough I don't use any of these editors but how about textmate or atom? Besides the Windows support is sublime that much better?
Alexander Jahraus
@fanaugen
Atom is free, but currently Mac-only. Sublime is cross-platform, but not free (and neither is TextMate). I think it makes sense to recommend free code editors as alternatives to Sublime. On Windows there’s Notepad++, on Macs there’s TextWrangler. For pure HTML/CSS there’s also Adobe Brackets, which has some unique features that are great for learning CSS.
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
Redcar was becoming useable last time I tried it and that was a awhile back so may be good by now? Also I'm loathed to say it but JetBrains gave us some free licences previously for another charity project
Andrew McDonough
@andrewmcdonough
I tried Redcar out a while ago, and it was great, but flakey in a few parts. Its website says fairly clearly "Redcar is not finished", then the last commit was over a year ago. If it's been abandoned, maybe it's not the best thing to recommend to beginners. Jetbrains Webstorm is a little heavy IMHO in both features, and also download size (127Mb), which could prove problematic in some of the venues. Notepad++ on the other hand appears to be 7.7Mb. I'd also be a fan of recommending stuff that's actually free, so maybe we should go with Notepad++ for Windows users and Atom for Mac?
Jon Kelly
@jkbits1
Very much IMHO on Windows editors - Notepad++ seems a good editor for students to begin with - it has decent syntax highlighting and to me has a "friendly" feel, as well as being very configurable. Webstorm might be helpful for some intermediate and above students. It's also very configurable, so to some extent it can be used like sublime if people want that (although I use it myself in a ide-style). The code-completion and JS-hint/lint features can be handy. (jkbits1 === Jon Kelly)
Alexander Jahraus
@fanaugen
Brand new beginner-level article by Chris Coyier showing examples of how Web languages fit together: http://css-tricks.com/web-technologies-hanging-together/
Dan Hassan
@dan-mi-sun
from my experience you become proficient in whatever we spend our time in :) to a degree it also depends on what the trainer is able to help with… small productivity tips can be an enjoyable and fun thing to learn, so you’ll miss out on that aspect if we’re recommending editors we don’t know how to use ourselves….
I’ve be leanring this recently in an ‘immersive course’ - I’m on vim and everyone else is on sublime… the trainer knows many sublime shortcuts which look great but knows nothing about vim… I’m lucky to have friends who use vim who say ‘hey! have you seen this?'
Despo Pentara
@despo
Hey guys, I would like to merge this in before the workshop today. Can you have a look and see if you have any feedback please codebar/tutorials#94
Brendan
@b-murphy
Sublime text edit, has a one person/organisation per licence, not per device, would it be bad to say that one could be shared for codebar students ?
Alexander Jahraus
@fanaugen
@thealmightyis I’d say that would violate their SLA, since "the codebar students" are by no standards an organisation, they are clearly individuals.
Ollie Silviotti
@ollie101

I made a couple of minor comments on the lessons @despo - nothing major, looks good to me.

Re:editors - I don't think there's really a need to move away from using Sublime unless people find the pop-up that annoying, especially if they're happy for students to use it indefinitely. Notepad++ and Atom are good alternatives if not though.

Jon Kelly
@jkbits1
@despo - I looked at the first changed file, and there are some really good changes in there, both from a technical and from a teaching perspective. Only one small comment from me. I'll look at the second file later.
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
Alex Pounds
@creature
Hi! I had a great time coaching last night. I can't make it next week but I'll be along for the event the week after. :)
Despo Pentara
@despo
@creature thanks for helping out!
Despo Pentara
@despo
Hey guys you can switch to the new gitter by changing to 'next' at http://next.gitter.im - visually it should have a next button in the middle of the top bar