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Rosa Fox
@Rosa-Fox
ah yeah, I didn't realise but Despo said the number limit is quite strict and she already gave Twitter the names of everyone coming. I think she emailed him but if you could text as well @creature that would be great! And thanks @barisbalic but all is ok... I just got confused!
Alex Pounds
@creature
@barisbalic Quite the opposite. The attendee list is locked down now. Thanks for the offer though!
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
No problem, sorry for the mixup I probably could have worked that out by reading a bit more. Good luck all!
Alex Pounds
@creature
Just got a reply, so Cosmin's up to date. :)
Rosa Fox
@Rosa-Fox
Awesome :) Thanks!
Alex Pounds
@creature
Someone has asked me (genuinely, not trollingly) what "underrepresented in the tech industry" means. Does anyone have a good link I can include in my reply?
Rosa Fox
@Rosa-Fox
it seems to be quite hard to find solid data but in terms of women in tech maybe get them to read the downloadable PDF report on here: http://www.e-skills.com/research/research-themes/women-in-it/ other than that I guess underrepresented means anyone who would be considered to be within a minority, so I would think LGBTQ and people from different ethnicities... I guess anyone who may experience difficulties from not fitting into the 'white straight male' description... though In Brighton if someone who isn't 'underrepresented' wanted to come to Codebar then they could do, as long as they bought someone with them who fell into the category, but I guess in London places fill up so they need to prioritise who gets a space. I'll have a look around and see if I can find any broader data.
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
@creature @Rosa-Fox I think the closest we have for women in tech is the BCS numbers, you should find them here: http://policy.bcs.org/sites/policy.bcs.org/files/Women%20in%20IT%20scorecardv2.pdf
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
In summary, I think 16% of all IT specialists across all industries are women, a subset of around 9% I think make up web-dev and engineering. This only covers women, and I would be careful of trying to define 'underrepresented', as it implies there is a specific/correct level of representation.
Alex Pounds
@creature
Yep, that's the tricky aspect of this bit; it's not just about women. I was hoping for an article that's all-encompassing.
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
You won't find one
At least none that are easily digestible, the numbers will vary between cities, countries and sectors, and in many cases it would rely on information that would be very sensitive. Employers are likely not allowed in most contexts to even ask if someone feels they have gender identity issues or what their sexual preferences are. Which would mean relying on voluntary surveys, which again feel like they would fall short of producing accurate data.
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
Then you'll probably have arguments about subgroups of straight white males being underrepresented. I don't, for example, consider any of the bigots, racists, fascists or misogynists that I hear about in tech, representative of myself, the fact that we share colour and gender doesn't change that.
Whatever you find, please share as I would be happy to know more.
Alex A
@conatus
drops into a chat room like yeah - to find it probably closing
:D
John
@artworkjpm
Anyone learning javascript / jquery? how are you finding it? how will you use your skills when you finish tutorials, what will you make?
Carolina Sawney
@assembly21
Hi there,
Does anyone recommend a good tutorial about polyfills. I need to apply one for one html5 element on a three page portfolio website with a contact form, a gradient, a shadow and a transform or animation. I've searched online, but the quality seems diverse and not knowing the topic, I thought I'd better ask here. Thanks a lot in advance.
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
hi @assembly21, you might need more than one polyfill, it might make more sense to try something like modernizr
Carolina Sawney
@assembly21
Yes, I have to use Modernizr, but only one polyfill, because it's an exercise. Is it just the link to Modernizr then?
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
I don't really know a huge amount about it to be honest, but I was under the impression you add a link to modernizr, which will automatically detect all of the things a browser can and can't do.
Then you can use Modernizr.load() to load polyfills
Adrian Silva
@skiold
hi there, what to expect as a first time coach in Brighton tonight?
Adrian Silva
@skiold
oh, I finally found the link to the invitation
Rosa Fox
@Rosa-Fox
Hi, 18.30 - 21.00pm will be eating pizza and chatting. 7pm - 9pm we split into pairs and take the students either through tutorials on the website, or help them with their own projects if possible. If you would like, Ryan who co-organises Codebar can sit with you and give you some mentoring advice before the coding starts? Otherwise there is some advice here: http://www.codebar.io/effective-teacher-guide. See you later!
Alexander Kustov
@alexanderkustov
Hello guys, joining in to help with anything needed in London. My friend invited me to this actually said that maybe I could coach... anything I should be aware of as a first timer? Is there any guide to contributing to the tutorials or
just writing future ones?
Alexander Kustov
@alexanderkustov
Oh, now that I've seen the link I see it fills up pretty quickly.. so just gotta wait for a better chance
Alex Jahraus
@fanaugen
Sorry guys, can no longer attend tomorrow – I see that there’s less than two students per coach anyway, so you’ll be fine without me :)
Alexander Kustov
@alexanderkustov
Wish I could go... but I understand this waiting list has maybe 20 before me...
Despo Pentara
@despo
There were 2 coaches and 20 students on the waiting list last I checked. @fanaugen if you change your RSVP your spot should be given to the next person waiting.
@knuxus is it as a coach that you want to attend? The waiting list for coaches is never that long (just checked again, there are 3 people now, and another one was already allocated a spot)
Despo Pentara
@despo
@knuxus sorry I missed the previous messages. You should definitely coach! Invitations go out on Wednesday night usually, so if you respond by Thursday morning, or even Friday (for the coach invitations) you should get a spot. The tutorials are all open source at github.com/codebar/tutorials so you can improve things, pick up existing issues or if you have any suggestions about missing tutorials you are more than welcome to do one. Pretty sure I have a brief guide on taht somewhere, just need to find it. :)
Alexander Kustov
@alexanderkustov
Thansk for reaching out @despo , i'll see to it
Alex Pounds
@creature
Coaches coming to London tonight: do any of you have a laptop that a student can use?
Despo Pentara
@despo
@creature I will bring one spare, hopefully we should be able to get a couple more.
Alex Pounds
@creature
Super!
Nick Jacobs
@njacobs5074
Hi everybody. I've signed up as a new coach at codebar. I was working through the JS tutorials and I thought that the AJAX Part 2 would be a good place to introduce functions in JS as first class entities and some basic information hiding techniques using closures. Thoughts? Comments? Thanks.
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
njacobs5074: I think rather than introduce them there they might be better suited to their own tutorial, then perhaps an AJAX part 2 revisited, with new technique applied.
njacobs5074: pretty big opinions seeing as I haven't done any work toward it :P
John
@artworkjpm
Am I being silly here but when I try to download the files for the javascript tutorial here http://tutorials.codebar.io/js/lesson2/tutorial.html the download file is unreadable as its a strange compressed one, not a regular zip file?
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
artworkjpm: are you using windows?
David Miller
@Orangetronic
It's compressed with a utility called gzip. If you're on a windows system, you'll need an archive facility like Power Archiver or Winzip to extract it.
John
@artworkjpm
oh I just downloaded a disgusting license heavy winzip to get these files... :S
Alex Pounds
@creature
@njacobs5074: I agree with Baris. Students often find it really hard to get their heads around AJAX, so I'd expect first-class functions & closures to be a total brainmelt there. And you could definitely get an hour's tutorial out of them alone...
David Miller
@Orangetronic
@artworkjpm :worried: I wonder if there's a better Windows way to deal with gzip… I know Winzip is pretty dire…
Alex Pounds
@creature
We recommend 7-zip in the getting started guide, but I don't know if that's "adequate" or "actually good".
Nick Jacobs
@njacobs5074
@creature @barisbalic I do see your respective points about having a "redux" with closures & functions and then the overloading concern. I'll hold onto this thought for now because obviously you want to introduce these more advanced concepts at the right juncture. Thanks for your feedback.