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Despo Pentara
@despo
If you do please drop me an email at despo@codebar.io - or else if i dont get time the website may look a bit weird after the 23rd.
:)
Alex Pounds
@creature
There’s an issue for it on Github, if anyone has questions/feedback/wants to take it on: codebar/planner#193
Despo Pentara
@despo
is anyone here based in NY? Will be announcing our first couple of Codebar NY workshops soon!
Denise Yu
@deniseyu
no but i lived there for 4 yrs & can put you in touch w some devs i know if you need!
Despo Pentara
@despo
@deniseyu thank you! There should be an email in your inbox.
Jacopo Nardiello
@jnardiello
@despo Sorry but tomorrow won't be able to attend. Today got some really bad temperature :( Just modified my attendance confirmation on the website as well.
Kriszta Matyi
@matyikriszta
@jnardiello thanks for letting us know, get better soon!
sas
@sasstevens
Hey, this week's invite for Brighton, in gmail in FF 36, the logo for the company covers up the 'view/RSPV' button. Not sure if it's happening for anyone else, might be a thing for @Rosa-Fox?
Daniel Gogarty
@DanTheBlue
@sasstevens Cant say I notice that on my android phone? Where did you see it out of interest?
Nick Jacobs
@njacobs5074
Hey. Sad to say, but I must bid adieu. I am off to Cape Town to enjoy the warm & sunny climate and try to make something happen in their awesome start-up scene. I've enjoyed being part of CodeBar, albeit not for a very long time.
On a more practical note, is there a way to "unsign-up" from the Coaches list?
Despo Pentara
@despo
@njacobs5074 hey, that sounds awesome :) You can unsubscribe through http://codebar.io/subscriptions after logging in!
Jon Kelly
@jkbits1
@njacobs5074 thanks for saying goodbye, it was great to meet you. Good luck with your start-up!
Despo Pentara
@despo
Does anyone have any feedback on this or reasons that another license may be more appropriate? codebar/tutorials#167
Dave Gurnell
@davegurnell
@despo is this for the Codebar course content?
If so, I'm thinking a Creative Commons license might be more appropriate (OSS for code, CC for media). I'm no expert on this stuff though.
I've put out free courses in the past with the notes CC and the source code Apache 2. In my case I'm allowing commercial re-use, though, which I'm guessing you won't want.
Despo Pentara
@despo
@davegurnell for the tutorials. But I think you are right, I was thinking about software but this is not. Maybe Attribution-ShareAlike would be a better choice.
or Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International
Dave Gurnell
@davegurnell
I don't know the history of the tutorials. Some contributors may prefer NC on there as well.
Despo Pentara
@despo
Yes, definitely not for commercial usage.
Dave Gurnell
@davegurnell
That sounds safer to me.
priya121
@priya121
Hey Despo, just having a look at the website, attribution non-commercial sharealike looks good.. If you want people to contribute to it and if they liscence their changes they give you credit and cannot pass it on for commercial reasons..
Creative Commons is such a great idea! Browsing their website right now..
Kriszta Matyi
@matyikriszta
@priya121 what does the sharealike part means exactly?
priya121
@priya121
@matyikriszta It means that you build upon or transform the material , you have to distribute the changes under the same conditions as the original liscence
So non commercial, giving credit to original author etc
Dave Gurnell
@davegurnell
Who has the Copyright on the Codebar tutorials? The original author?
It won't be hugely important in practical terms if the tutorials are CC-licensed, but it's the sort of detail that needs to be correct.
Kriszta Matyi
@matyikriszta
@priya121 thanks, makes much more sense now :)
priya121
@priya121
@davegurnell I can look into it a little more but as far as I understand it's the person who creates the work and then executes the liscence
You're right it's the definitions that matter and I'm at work looking on the DL! So will have a closer look and see what I can find!
Dave Gurnell
@davegurnell
Yes. By default it's whoever wrote the work.
Here are my thoughts...
  • Ideally, Codebar (whoever/ehatever that is -- has to be a legal person) should "own" the tutorials and licence them using an appropriate licence (CC-BY-SA-NC or whatever).
  • Failing that, there should be an agreement with the original author(s) that allows Codebar to operate without any possibility of future problems.
I don't know if this means assigning Copyright or just licenseing things. I'm sure most authors would be happy with any agreement as long as they get credit and know that the material will be used for good (as opposed to evil).
Dave Gurnell
@davegurnell
I know a guy who runs a reasonably successful OSS web framework with a lot of contributors. I believe they have a central body that owns the Copyright to the code (and has a policy on keeping it open source etc). I'll ask him how they operate.
priya121
@priya121
Yeah think it's always better to ask someone who's done it already!
David Banks
@amoe
Just a heads up that noncommercial licenses fail the open source definition (http://opensource.org/osd-annotated)... How much you care about that depends on project priorities I guess
priya121
@priya121
@amoe you're right, and there are a few articles online and the CC website itself says a CC liscence isn't the best liscence for source code as there is no distinction between source code and the object and so it can't fall within Free Software or Open Source..
Baris Balic
@barisbalic
@deniseyu ping!
Spike Lindsey
@spike01
Kriszta Matyi
@matyikriszta
thanks @spike01
Despo Pentara
@despo
@spike01 nice!
Kriszta Matyi
@matyikriszta
@spike01 do you have a twitter handle? and what is the name of your talk? what was the gist of it? (I missed it I'm afraid, I was still checking latecomers in)
Denise Yu
@deniseyu
its @ spikelindsey
Kriszta Matyi
@matyikriszta
@deniseyu and how would you explain the contents in one short sentence?
Denise Yu
@deniseyu
hmm.. why novice developers should start thinking about writing good, clean, responsible code