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Jeff Adelman
@jeffadelman8
@harberg LimeLight
Zach
@ZachBowman
Dude. I think I just got a job working on Bing!
Minh Quy
@MQuy
@ZachBowman wow congras :clap:
can you share your experiences :D
Zach
@ZachBowman
Thanks! Yeah, definitely. Let me finish up a bunch of stuff tonight, and then I can write up something about it tomorrow afternoon.
Andy Ernst
@AndyCErnst
Hmm, haven't heard of Bing, I'll have to Google it :P
Jeff Adelman
@jeffadelman8
Oh snap!
Kyle Warbis
@UWarbs
haha good one Andy. Zach, wait until you get to know the secret sauce of bing video.
Hailey L. Petway
@hlpetway
Way to @ZachBowman !!
Nicholas Harberg
@harberg
well done @ZachBowman
Tyler Morgan
@toastynerd
@ZachBowman Congrats!
Nicholas Harberg
@harberg
Is the gitbook that we used in class being changed and added onto? Just wondering since I have been using it as a reference.
Tyler Morgan
@toastynerd
@harberg Yes, we are modifying it, we have some new stuff in the repo but we haven’t put it into the book itself yet.
Nicholas Harberg
@harberg
@toastynerd Thanks for the info. Was mainly just looking for the Angular testing with Mocha/Chai stuff
Tyler Morgan
@toastynerd
@harberg Yeah, that hasn’t happened yet
been focusing mainly on first half stuff
Zach
@ZachBowman
Thanks everybody!
Chelsea Lura
@ChelseaLura
@ZachBowman Congratz!!!
Kevin Stephens
@kevinmstephens
@ZachBowman Congrats! Yes, I'm working at Formidable. Anna Luisa and I started here on Monday.
Robert Talamantez
@Talamantez
woah wtg @kevinmstephens and @aisapatino
Zach
@ZachBowman
@kevinmstephens, @aisapatino Great job, guys!
Tyler Morgan
@toastynerd
@kevinmstephens @aisapatino Awesome, congrats!
Kyle Warbis
@UWarbs
I wish I could work with everyone from CF
Zach
@ZachBowman
Yeah, that would be awesome.
Zach
@ZachBowman
Guys, I got a better offer from another Microsoft branch and I took that one. They program test tools for AAA games.
@kevinmstephens , What kind of stuff do you do at Formidable? Those are the guys who gave us the Backbone tutorial, right?
Kyle Warbis
@UWarbs
You missed out on bing man. You could've been on the cutting edge of porn video search optimization. ask @dzdonov
Chelsea Lura
@ChelseaLura
^ lol
Zach
@ZachBowman
Yeah, I very narrowly escaped Bing's clutches, by about an hour and a half.
Zach
@ZachBowman
I found some open web development spots through recruiters that they said I could pass around, if you guys are interested
Andy Ernst
@AndyCErnst
I once got an email for a job just moments before saying yes on the phone to another job. The email job paid twice as much.
Hailey L. Petway
@hlpetway
oh no! :)
Zach
@ZachBowman
@kurofluff, did you see the email in time?
@mquy, what kind of details did you want to hear about?
Andy Ernst
@AndyCErnst
Yes I did, and I worked there a year and half.
Kevin Stephens
@kevinmstephens
@KuroFluff Why can't I private chat you? I got an idea for how to solve our census problem using graphs and depth first search
Andy Ernst
@AndyCErnst
I changed my github name since starting code fellows
Minh Quy
@MQuy
@ZachBowman ah just about how can you get job in Bing :smile:
Nicholas Harberg
@harberg

General question for the group. I have a checkout page that is built with Angular. there are four different controllers that handle different tasks; items, shipping info, credit card info, order submission. I would like to be able to trigger the functions inside the first three controllers from the submission controller.

If I put everything into one huge controller it all works fine, but I would like to keep the different actions separate. I have tried nesting the first three controllers inside the submission controller...but parent controllers don't have access to child scope.

Any thoughts on a good structure would be really helpful. Thanks.

Tyler Morgan
@toastynerd
try abstracting the controller actions into a service
Nicholas Harberg
@harberg
@toastynerd for example the shipping controller grabs all of the address info from input fields and adds them to the cart object. Would that go into the service? or what the submission controller be the service that then gets the info from the other controllers?
Zach
@ZachBowman

@MQuy , My Bing experience:

A recruiter sent me the Bing job originally, and I was surprised when they requested the interview, because I didn't think anything would come of it, really. I only had about half the skills they were looking for, and I actually taught myself XML the day before, just to prep for it.

There were three interviewers in a row, mostly asking me about more technical stuff than chit-chat or things about myself.

The first interviewer wanted me to write an algorithm to put a list of operations in order based on a list of dependencies. He said I could use any language I wanted, and I honestly forget whether I did it in Javascript or C#. I followed everything we learned about whiteboarding, and told him I could solve it, but that it wouldn't be fast or efficient (it was exponentially long). Once he saw enough of what I was writing to get where I was going (and that I knew how to program), he started giving me hints about how we could do it faster. I saw where he was trying to take it, and we ended up putting all the data into a tree, traversing that to get the results.

The second guy went right into a programming challenge, and this one was more about logging errors and cloud services, and was more conceptual. He had a heavy Russian accent, and wasn't the best at conveying his ideas across. I asked for a lot of elaboration and kept asking questions. When I finally understood what he was looking for, I realized it wasn't that complicated. He really just wanted me to show him what a class definition in C# would look like for this specific situation.

The third guy had almost no programming questions. All he wanted me to do was to circle the errors in a mock XML document, and then asked a bunch of crazy questions like "If you were the CEO of Microsoft and had to make a speech..." and "If we built a time machine and went back 100 years..." It reminded me of when Google asks Vince Vaughn the blender question in the movie The Internship. I just worded my answers very carefully and thoughtfully, took everything as seriously as I could, didn't ramble on, and tried not to take a huge amount of time before answering.

They apparently must have liked what I said and wrote, because the recruiter emailed me an hour later (I wasn't even home yet) and said they wanted me to start as soon as possible.

Andy Ernst
@AndyCErnst
Wow, impressive @ZachBowman. Thanks for sharing. That helps me visualize the process a lot.
Tyler Morgan
@toastynerd
@harberg All kind of depends. I would probably make the part that saves it into the cart a service and either leave the part that pulls data from the forms in the controller or make that a service as well.
Zach
@ZachBowman
@KuroFluff , Thanks, Andy. I felt like my search wasn't going anywhere very quickly, and then I had this insanely busy week all of a sudden.
Zach Bryan
@ZBryan
@ZachBowman Congrats man that is awesome
Robert Talamantez
@Talamantez
@ZachBowman Mission accomplished!
Zach
@ZachBowman
Thanks guys!
Robert Talamantez
@Talamantez
realtime video chat with node? https://bitbucket.org/webrtc/codelab
Hailey L. Petway
@hlpetway
Who's up for Happy Hour this Friday?!