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Mar 2016
Sami Rahman
@samrahman
Mar 09 2016 00:34 UTC
Hi @kehh
a quick question on providence, suppose we're using two textbox which comes with the basic installation, called "treatment date" & "treatment report" like so: http://i.imgur.com/1We0Pv7.jpg?1
now how would you understand which treatment report goes with which treatment date? How would you use it?
Sami Rahman
@samrahman
Mar 09 2016 00:39 UTC
Would you put this in a same container?
Sophie
@pinkfishies
Mar 09 2016 01:41 UTC
@samrahman Yes you should wrap these two fields in the same container, that way they repeat together as a pair
Sami Rahman
@samrahman
Mar 09 2016 02:54 UTC
thanks @pinkfishies
jessica-s
@jessica-s
Mar 09 2016 04:50 UTC
Hi guys, we've finished data importing & now stucked into many providence questions. When we should really use (Object screen->Loan In/Loan Out) vs (Procedure->Condition check)
Our scenario is that, we can have 10 conditions check records for a single object
jessica-s
@jessica-s
Mar 09 2016 04:55 UTC
Now if we put all these records in a single screen in object, it becomes bit unreadable: http://i.imgur.com/fzNlpzI.png?1
just unsure about why there are two screens in collectiveaccess for loans/conditions/valuations? (e.g. object->loan in, Loan standalone) and when to use which?
jessica-s
@jessica-s
Mar 09 2016 05:25 UTC
ps in case you're wondering that was @samrahman talking on my behalf. Cheers, Jess
Sami Rahman
@samrahman
Mar 09 2016 05:37 UTC
:-D
Julia
@juliaweist
Mar 09 2016 14:41 UTC
Hi @jessica-s there are a few different ways to approach this. One would be to create a stand alone record for Condition events, linked back to the related Objects. The benefit of this design is only having to enter the info once, rather than multiple times on each object record. Several of our museum users take this approach.
I should add that this design only makes sense when a single condition event is shared between multiple objects, and it is less useful in the scenario when one object has 10 condition checks.
For the latter it would help to make the container you've configured a bit more readable by changing the "max columns" settings for the lists. If you set "max columns" to 5 for the first and 3 for the second, they will only take up one line each in the container. This may help address your readability concern.
Letícia Ferreira
@letsferrera
Mar 09 2016 16:27 UTC
hi @kehh, thank you! I'm still getting the same error though :worried:
Do you have any other ideas on what could be wrong?
Sami Rahman
@samrahman
Mar 09 2016 19:09 UTC
thanks @juliaweist ! Is it a good approach to use both of them, i.e. standalone editor in case of shared conditions between objects & for all the other cases using the latter?
I'm just bit concerned how to generate reports if we mix two approach to input data
Julia
@juliaweist
Mar 09 2016 19:15 UTC
@samrahman it's a better idea to use only one or the other
Sami Rahman
@samrahman
Mar 09 2016 19:28 UTC
@juliaweist , is it possible to generate reports having 10 rows in the pdf when one object has 10 conditions?
or we've to merge all the conditions in a single line in the report ?
Julia
@juliaweist
Mar 09 2016 19:33 UTC
@samrahman Yes, you can easily set a <br> tag as the delimiter between repeats of the container in the report, breaking each condition onto it's own line. This would also work for the standalone record, which would be a relationship to the object, delimited by line breaks.
Sami Rahman
@samrahman
Mar 09 2016 19:36 UTC

thanks for your help, Julia. Actually I meant having a report in separate rows like below ,

Object#1 => Condition 1
Object#1 => Condition 2
Object#1 => Condition 3

but it makes sense with the <br> tag too
Julia
@juliaweist
Mar 09 2016 19:42 UTC
You could approximate that with formatting, but from a conceptual stand point, each "row" is a single record in our framework. We don't break out repeating metadata (i.e. in search results) as multiple rows corresponding to a single object.
Sami Rahman
@samrahman
Mar 09 2016 19:46 UTC
that's right, it makes sense from the sql point of view too.
mrjayviper
@mrjayviper
Mar 09 2016 23:59 UTC
Hello. I have a condition container that contains text and containers. I added 2 records but only the first one is showing. Any ideas what I could be doing wrong? I've read the display template guide to help me build the code below. Thanks