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    sterlingjenson
    @sterlingjenson
    @bib_mais_twitter -- in one of the threads, you were asking for examples of how to record the treatment of an object. Here is a screen shot of the container I use to record that information
    4 replies
    I probably should add a line for if the reference is a book or an article
    Jonas Rosland
    @jonasrosland
    Is it possible to search for objects not in a collection, or not in a storage location?
    In Providence, that is.
    Infra|Red
    @InfraRed:matrix.org
    [m]
    @jonasrosland: as in not in any collection or any storage location?
    3 replies
    Infra|Red
    @InfraRed:matrix.org
    [m]
    @jonasrosland I can't see a way outside querying the db directly. Version 1.8 will have the new query builder which is pretty cool, but I couldn't get that to work for this case either. @collectiveaccess might be able to answer better.
    sterlingjenson
    @sterlingjenson
    @jonasrosland have you looked into document on how to use the advance search index syntax : https://docs.collectiveaccess.org/wiki/Search_Syntax#Searching_for_blank_values
    Infra|Red
    @InfraRed:matrix.org
    [m]
    @sterlingjenson: I just tried that in the advanced search and it unfortunately didn't work :(
    EnekoSC
    @EnekoSC
    How can I make custom searches using ElasticSearch? I've read that it has a specific syntax but i don't know how to do it in PHP
    CollectiveAccess
    @collectiveaccess
    Elastic uses the same Lucene query syntax as the SQL-based engine. At least from the user interface, they are supposed to work the same. You can potentially query Elastic from your code in other ways though.
    @jonasrosland You could potentially index counts of relationships and then query for those with zero relationships to find objects "not in collection X" (etc.). This is not configured by default though.
    The blank value syntax doesn't work for relationships, because relationships are not fields... there's nothing to be "blank"
    EnekoSC
    @EnekoSC
    I've seen the documentation and there is a section where it talks about the syntax but I have to use a function or something and then pass the string with the query
    Jonas Rosland
    @jonasrosland
    Trying out the basic search, I found that I can easily search for descriptions being blank. I understand from the above that I can't do that for relationships. Ok. But! Let's see here.
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    Then I can filter by collection
    So, would it be possible to add a filter for "No collection"?
    CollectiveAccess
    @collectiveaccess
    Yes that's possible
    You'd have to configure a "has" browse facet
    and set it to the relevant table
    Jonas Rosland
    @jonasrosland
    That's a bit over my head at the moment. This seems like it would be a useful feature though? Searching for non-collection items to make sure they're in a collection?
    Jonas Rosland
    @jonasrosland
    I can open an issue if that would help?
    CollectiveAccess
    @collectiveaccess
    There are lots of useful features people want. If you need it you could create an issue for it.
    Jonas Rosland
    @jonasrosland
    Infra|Red
    @InfraRed:matrix.org
    [m]
    @jonasrosland: by adding the browse facet like was mentioned you can do this, It's a configuration file change. I sent you a DM (not sure if you got it).
    Patrick Timmons
    @pstimmons

    Hello. I have this warning at the end of every page from my installation:

    Warning: fsockopen(): unable to connect to tls://collective-access.delisle.duckdns.org:25443:443 (Unknown error) in /var/www/html/ca/app/lib/Controller/Request/RequestHTTP.php on line 660

    You can see that my installation uses tcp port 25443. RequestHTTP.php gets the server name from CA_SITE_HOSTNAME which is defined in
    app/helpers/post-setup.php: define("CA_SITE_HOSTNAME", isset($_SERVER['HTTP_HOST']) ? $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST'] : '');

    $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST'] contains the port in my case. It then adds $vn_port with a value of 443.

    $_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'] and $_SERVER['SERVER_PORT'] might be a better choice to find the name and port.

    ericwm
    @eriwm
    Please ignore my post dated 21 Sept re Really stumped on this one - importing hierarchical list as after much gnashing of teeth and renting of clothes I finally figured it out myself.
    Infra|Red
    @InfraRed:matrix.org
    [m]
    Well done on figuring it out. :)
    CollectiveAccess
    @collectiveaccess
    @pstimmons Because of the way PHP works (no threading), in order to perform search indexing in a separate process we have to initiate a request by hitting a URL on the server. We're not accounting for the port being stuck onto the hostname here, as you've observed. I've just pushed a change to master and develop branches to improve this.
    1 reply
    It'll be in the next releases, or you can pull it from git now if you wish
    CariTheKitty
    @CariTheKitty
    Hello, I can't seem to find instructions to install pawtucket2 in the manual (which seems to have many blank pages?)
    Infra|Red
    @InfraRed:matrix.org
    [m]
    Hi @CariTheKitty . The manual linked from the homepage is for the soon to be released version 1.8 . The documentation for this is still a work in progress. Have a look at https://docs.collectiveaccess.org/wiki/Main_Page for any of missing information
    CariTheKitty
    @CariTheKitty
    Thanks, what's the rough ETA on 1.18?
    Infra|Red
    @InfraRed:matrix.org
    [m]
    Can't answer that sorry, I'm just a community member helping out.
    CariTheKitty
    @CariTheKitty
    Thanks for the help! (was making dinner) My planned usage is to run a first & third party archive for a game series (with the backing of the former game company), has anyone done a purely digital archive with this software?
    Infra|Red
    @InfraRed:matrix.org
    [m]
    I'm not sure. People use it to store born digital objects, just not sure if anyone else does purely that.
    CariTheKitty
    @CariTheKitty
    How do I log out of the default backend? I can't find a logout button!
    CariTheKitty
    @CariTheKitty
    Found it!
    markcroft1975
    @markcroft1975:matrix.org
    [m]
    HI i am looking in testing the collectaccess web software.. any one got a demo version all setup as a virtual machine to make it easy to install thank you
    sorry i have bad grammar i am dyselix
    Infra|Red
    @InfraRed:matrix.org
    [m]
    There is a demo here. https://demo.collectiveaccess.org
    markcroft1975
    @markcroft1975:matrix.org
    [m]
    i need it running on my laptop and tweak it a bit and give a demo of it
    Infra|Red
    @InfraRed:matrix.org
    [m]
    There is a vagrantfile in the source code
    Biblioteca é muito +
    @bib_mais_twitter
    Hi, does anyone who describes artworks have already used a treatment model that creates a hierarchical-relationship between work and part of the work (components)? This seems to bring a complexity of treatment, has anyone ever tried something like that?
    Jonas Rosland
    @jonasrosland
    @CariTheKitty I’m the ED of https://hitsave.org, I would love to see what you do with your setup for game preservation!
    CollectiveAccess
    @collectiveaccess
    @bib_mais_twitter Yes. It's used often in art collections.
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    @CariTheKitty Yes, there are archives with just born-digital material. The metadata changes a bit, but otherwise it's the same as any other sort of archive.
    There are standards for digital preservation you'll likely want to follow though