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Steve Lee
@SteveALee
Folks, do follow #cycleconf on twitter for more info
Dmitrii 'Mamut' Dimandt
@dmitriid
xstream is love
esp. after once again struggling with the cold observables in HTTP :)
Steve Lee
@SteveALee
@svachalek yeah 'use only if you know what you're doing' or rather you don't ;)
Scott Vachalek
@svachalek
I'll think I'll stay away from that one, to preserve family honor. Off the top of my head I think operators I might miss are distinctUntilChanged() and debounce()
aha! they are in extras. perfect
Alexey Raspopov
@alexeyraspopov
Scott Vachalek
@svachalek
@alexeyraspopov there's some rationale in here: http://staltz.com/why-we-built-xstream.html
Alexey Raspopov
@alexeyraspopov

In many ways it is more powerful than xstream, providing access to cold Observables (which are more generic than hot ones), schedulers (which xstream has none so far), marble diagram testing, and dozens of battle-proven operators.

so that means cyclejs won't have these bells and whistles, right? I mean testing, marbles, all the stuff that is built around Rx

Scott Vachalek
@svachalek
farther down he says the next version of Cycle will support mixing Observable libraries
Marcus Nielsen
@marcusnielsen
I thought there would be a live stream on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyzG4JKkeME, but it’s offline. Any other way to watch the presentations of cycleconf?
Vincent Orr
@Cmdv
yeah looks like bits of it were done on a phone @marcusnielsen check the #cycleconf on twitter to view what there is
Marcus Nielsen
@marcusnielsen
thanks @Cmdv
Vincent Orr
@Cmdv
just shows the end of Staltz then ideas for hacks
André Staltz
@staltz
Is @Cmdv in the house?
Vincent Orr
@Cmdv
yeah
Vincent Orr
@Cmdv
?
Dmitrii 'Mamut' Dimandt
@dmitriid
I may be doing something wrong, but here goes: cyclejs/core#294
:)
André Staltz
@staltz
I mean is @Cmdv in Copenhagen?
Vincent Orr
@Cmdv
ah no I wish 😢 @staltz
André Staltz
@staltz
aww you're missing so much. BTW your boilerplate was mentioned multiple times
Aron Nyborg Allen
@aronallen
Hi guys, live streams are starting at 12.00, we will take some questions from #cycleconf.github.io after each talk, so please tag along even if you are not here.
Aron Nyborg Allen
@aronallen
@marcusnielsen only the main talks will be live streamed, we are starting soon.
Dmitrii 'Mamut' Dimandt
@dmitriid
Guys who are watching, can you hear Andre?
Just wondering :)
Ghost
@ghost~571a3ab7659847a7aff40934
Yes, twice even :P
(There's an echo)
Dmitrii 'Mamut' Dimandt
@dmitriid
:D
Vincent Orr
@Cmdv
was the sound not good?
I missed it
Ghost
@ghost~571a3ab7659847a7aff40934
Did you not have an echo? Perhaps it's a problem in my setup
Vincent Orr
@Cmdv
I caught the very last minute and it seemed very quiet
Ghost
@ghost~571a3ab7659847a7aff40934
Odd...
Anyone know how I can render a VTree to a string?
Michal Vanko
@michalvankodev
try JSON.stringify.. VTree should be just bunch of objects
Ghost
@ghost~571a3ab7659847a7aff40934
Ah, sorry, I should clarify: I want a string containing the HTML representation of the virtual DOM :)
And perhaps to avoid the XY problem just mentioned in the presentation: I want to test the view without needing to know the exact structure. Thus, my thinking was that if I could render it to an HTML string, I could use Cheerio (JQuery-like) to find an element in the rendered view.
Brandon Smith
@BrandonSmith
Ghost
@ghost~571a3ab7659847a7aff40934
@BrandonSmith Ah, a separate module. That works perfectly, thanks :)
Vincent Orr
@Cmdv
great talk @Widdershin I was thinking out of the box, if there's a way cycle-restart could be used to stack trace to help debug where streams went wrong.
damn that's when I wish I was there in person so I could ask multiple things haha
André Staltz
@staltz
SUPER talk by @Widdershin
Marius Lundgård
@mariuslundgard
I really wish the @cycle/http module was called @cycle/xhr or something in that vein. Which could open the @cycle/http for a HTTP req/res driver for Node. What do you think?
André Staltz
@staltz
hmm, because Cycle is mostly for the frontend, you could consider http-node driver
Vincent Orr
@Cmdv
totally forgot to mention I updated the socket.io driver!! need to get it out to npm unless you want it as part of Cycle @staltz ? https://github.com/Cmdv/cycle-socket.io
André Staltz
@staltz
I'll review it :+1: probably soon after the conf
André Staltz
@staltz
How to use Cycle with xstream: cyclejs/examples@9c6e992
Vincent Orr
@Cmdv
:sparkles:
Dmitrii 'Mamut' Dimandt
@dmitriid
\o/