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    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    I am involved in many projects: Tiki, WikiSuite, my business (which is changing name, domain name and structure), plus my personal email, plus I have some accounts with big mail providers (Gmail, Outlook, etc.) And some special projects with their own domain name (ex.: https://pluginproblems.com/), and thus, with some email associated. I also have/had some test accounts when I'd like to experiment with some interesting services (ex.: Fastmail). It's a challenge to remain efficient!
    Because it's hard to manage, I often use mail redirects, but that's no good because emails don't end up archived in the relevant mailbox. And I end up writing to people from my work address to discuss topics related to my volunteer activities.
    Thanks to Cypht, there is now a path to a sane / efficient process
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    To help with this challenge, and moving messages between mailboxes, I have been using Claws Mail, which is the best client I have found to manage the huge amount of email I have. It's not fast, but it's faster than all the others I tried. Well, I am sure it's very fast if your mailboxes are of a reasonable size...
    But firing up a desktop mail client, that will take a while to sync, feels so much like 1999. So I rarely do, making it even slower each time to sync.
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    Now, in Cypht, I just click move, and pick the email account and folder (this part could be better with a folder filter/search)
    Roundcube doesn't have this feature: roundcube/roundcubemail#4972
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    So thank you and congrats to Jason for his fantastic work!
    jasonmunro @jasonmunro yawns and waves to everyone
    Jason Munro
    @jasonmunro
    @marclaporte_gitlab the move/copy between accounts is brilliant yes? :) It's not very well coded I'm afraid, but it works pretty well and is something I have never seen in a webmail (or desktop) client before.
    @all Sorry I have been absent of late, just busy with work and family and stuff. I'm going to try to be around more often here so don't hesitate to hit me up with questions or feedback and feel free to DM me. I will respond when I can.
    Jason Munro
    @jasonmunro
    Cypht related story: for my day job (the one that pays the bills), I needed to migrate some PHP scripts I put together for an internal dashboard to a more secure, future proof framework. Potentially for a SAAS but for now short term per-user access to specific internal resources. So I set up Cypht with DB auth, and only the core and site module sets. I used the site module set to override and remove some E-mail related stuff from the menu, and BOOM: a generic secure application framework. Since I ported all the scripts to Cypht modules and it's working great. I admit however I did fork the code and remove/alter some core stuff, but 90% of what I needed could be done with the module system (probably all of it but I was lazy about it a bit). ;)
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    It is fantastic that you are using Cypht for your work!
    AFAIK, all desktop email clients permit drag and drop of emails between accounts. Perhaps not with a nifty right-click to pick your destination directory.
    Yves Kipondo
    @yvesdaxmaz
    @jasonmunro I have make some notice, when I'm working on my local cypht installation, I can't logged in with the user which I create when I was setting my development environnement. It pass only when I use mail-debug version of cypht. But I usually use the same access
    Robert Winkler
    @robert-winkler
    Hi, is there any news on the LDAP writing support issue? I can write into my LDAP address book with phpLDAPadmin 1.2.2., but Cypht cannot add/edit/delete contacts. Intending to delete a contact, Cypht gives an error message 'Cannot delete contact'. For adding/ deleting, no message is provided.
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    @robert-winkler I don't know but I am interested by the topic. We have an interested for Tiki as well
    Use case: We want to use Cypht with Apache James, and for users to come from Tiki
    Apache James easily gets users from LDAP, so one option is write info in LDAP...
    Robert Winkler
    @robert-winkler
    Hi, is there any guide on the creation of themes? I copied a theme css into /modules/themes/assets, registered it in the themes.ini in the /app_data . After running config_gen.php, it appears in in the settings menu. Fine so far. But after changing the .css I cannot notice the changes in the interface, even after running config_gen.php and logging out/in. What am I missing?
    Jason Munro
    @jasonmunro
    @robert-winkler I need to fire up ldap and recheck the situation, I will try to get to that this weekend. For theme development it sounds like you are doing the right thing, you will want to use your browser dev tools to ensure the theme css is being included.
    theme css is included after the main combined site.css file - so you should not need to rerun config_gen, however you might need a hard refresh for the browser to avoid caching. Also you often need to prepend !important to new theme css rules to force an override of the original
    Robert Winkler
    @robert-winkler
    Sorry for bombarding you with so many questions, but after testing clients for multiple email accounts, Cypht is now my favourite (low latency, clean design, LDAP, RSS integration etc.).
    Is there any possibility to use GnuPG?
    Jason Munro
    @jasonmunro
    @robert-winkler I appreciate all feedback so keep it coming! There is a PGP module set. It uses gnupg via PHP server side, and Forge js client side. I would expect bugs since I'm probably the only one who has every used it! :)
    and thank you for the kind words!
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    Talking about PGP, I find this one very interesting: https://packagist.org/packages/teqneers/shamir
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    Adrien found a surprising bug: jasonmunro/cypht#377
    While he was fixing jasonmunro/cypht#376
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    I am getting a bug where sent messages are not saved to the folder it is set to. Is this working for anyone here?
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    Would be nice to have more people showing their support here: https://www.openhub.net/p/cypht/users
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    Everyone: please share a story of something you like with Cypht. Or Why you picked Cypht, and what you were using before...
    Robert Winkler
    @robert-winkler
    Hi, where should we tell the story? Mine is simple: I was looking for a fast and stable multi-account client (and tried anything I found..).
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    @robert-winkler Thank you for the testimonial. Is multi-account webmail common or uncommon?
    Robert Winkler
    @robert-winkler
    Well, there are several. The self-hostable ones I tried: rainloop, nextcloud, mailpile. cypht is by far the most stable and responsive one (I receive ~100 emails/day on 4 accounts; currently ~22,000 in the different folders). Very often, I get large attachments, which are no problem for cypht. Today, various manuscripts, a PhD thesis etc...
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    Nice! And we'll be contributing more features! There are several quick / easy UI wins on the way
    Robert Winkler
    @robert-winkler
    In my case, only a few features are really missing. E.g. HTML signatures and "send later" (to avoid getting an answer the same day and starting an Email chat..).
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    HTML in emails: I mostly avoid but every once in a while, it comes in handy
    "send later" would require a cron job on the server. If we add later, let's add filters. I historically use a huge number of rules / filters to place all my emails in the right place. With Cypht, I would add rules to move email to the right mailbox... Ex.: I create a mailbox for accounting@
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    For server hosting, the same email is used for monitoring alerts and for billing. Yet, the patterns are predictable so we can move the emails.
    Victor added some capability to use the Cypht debug mode in Tiki, so it will be much easier to hunt some bugs: https://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/75791
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    I just added a comment about filters/Sieve in Cypht: jasonmunro/cypht#9
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    I had an issue with Cypht not saving sent mails and I found the cause: jasonmunro/cypht#380
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    @jasonmunro: Benoit Roy and I had a long chat yesterday about Cypht theming
    He has ideas and suggestions on how to make it easier for projects like Tiki (and one day others) to integrate Cypht and to have a consistent look and feel.
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    we will experiment an
    d come back to you with a proposal
    Marc Laporte
    @marclaporte_gitlab
    Ah, was done here: tikiwiki/tiki/-!308