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Marco Everts
@Marcopolox13
I know thers a section on the web interface, but thers nothing
matrixbot
@matrixbot
bauerj Dunno, only ever used it with docker
Marco Everts
@Marcopolox13
oh ok, thanks anywey
matrixbot
@matrixbot
bauerj Good luck! 😄
Ghost
@ghost~5ed7a421d73408ce4fe5cdf0
Hi. Anyone knows what happened to https://hub.docker.com/r/danielquinn/paperless/ ?
matrixbot
@matrixbot
bauerj I assume it was moved to https://hub.docker.com/r/thepaperlessproject/paperless as well
Ghost
@ghost~5ed7a421d73408ce4fe5cdf0
Thanks. :) The new "address" is compatible with the old?
matrixbot
@matrixbot
bauerj Well, the image is compatible if that's what you mean :)
Ghost
@ghost~5ed7a421d73408ce4fe5cdf0
Just replace the old repository address with the new, and everything will be updated?
matrixbot
@matrixbot
bauerj That depends on which version you are on right now
bauerj You may need to change your docker-compose.yml
Ghost
@ghost~5ed7a421d73408ce4fe5cdf0
I'm using the unRAID docker function... so I guess I can just update the repository url.
Uli Fahrer
@Tooa
@exxon82 The paperless template from the selfhosters repository uses the most recent paperless code from thepaperlessproject. Use that one.
Also please post your Unraid related questions about paperless in the official Unraid support thread here
Ener Geh
@enerGeh_gitlab
Excuse me guys to bother you but I'm running into an issue while creating the paperless docker container and had no chance to fix it using google. I opened an github issue on that: the-paperless-project/paperless#709
Long term short: There is an sudoers error showing up while starting the container for the first time, it's the same with self-build images and the official Docker Hub thepaperlessproject/paperless:latest image.
totti4ever
@totti4ever
Hey @enerGeh_gitlab!
Not that it shouldn’t work for everybody, but you know that you can just pull the build images from DockerHub, right?
https://hub.docker.com/r/pitkley/paperless
Ener Geh
@enerGeh_gitlab
Hey @totti4ever, yes I know that I can pull the images from DockerHub but never tried the repo you mentioned, I used the official the-paperless-project/paperless images. Are there any differences between these two repos?
I'll give pitkley's repo a try tonight
Ener Geh
@enerGeh_gitlab
Hey @totti4ever , seems like I've no luck. With pitkley's repo, I'm running into ERROR: for consumer Container "f011d751a420" is unhealthy. ERROR: Encountered errors while bringing up the project.
totti4ever
@totti4ever

Oh, sorry - you are right of course, @enerGeh_gitlab.
pitkley’s repo has been the standard for a long time, but since a couple of months there is the official one, right!

So, what happens if you use/pull the official one. Ideally using docker-compose?

Ener Geh
@enerGeh_gitlab
I really appreciate your help, so no need to excuse ;-)
I follow the Docker setup guide in readthedocs step by step, changing the local port to 8001 in the docker-compose.yml, setting the consume directory to the according directory and changing the ocr language (deu eng) as well as the timezone (Europe/Amsterdam) to my needs in the docker-compose.env.
Running docker-compose up -d completes with ERROR: for consumer Container "a93e40a45486" is unhealthy. ERROR: Encountered errors while bringing up the project.
In the logs I can see the same message I had when self building the image: sudo: unable to open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin
Maybe this does conflict with my portainer instance I usually use to bring up Docker containers?!
Ener Geh
@enerGeh_gitlab
Nope... I just shut down portainer and the docker-compose for the paperless container is still not working.
Are there any logs I can provide to you to dig deeper?
totti4ever
@totti4ever

Hmm, did you set any specific user in the compose file? Do you have the other containers setuo with compose as well And finally, does any other container use that port? (check with docker ps)

I have switched away from paperless a couple of weeks ago, so I’m afraid I cannot help you more. Have it up running every now and then to verify things, thoug. So no problems on my side

Ener Geh
@enerGeh_gitlab
I tried to set up the docker containers inside a virtual ubuntu server on a different machine and it worked as expected, so seems to be an issue with the setup on the first machine. As far as I understand the issue, it is related to permissions on the sudoers and I thought it is about file permissions inside the docker containers. Maybe it is related to file permissions on the host machine? I'll examine this a bit deeper!
Ener Geh
@enerGeh_gitlab
I got the issue by the roots! I had to update my docker-compose to the latest version as described in https://docs.docker.com/compose/install/. I was using 1.21.0 and am now on 1.27.4 and works like a charm! Maybe this is helpful for anyone else...
totti4ever
@totti4ever
(y)
casimir
@casimir:casimir-lab.net
[m]
Do you think the authentication from Django is good enough to deploy paperless on the Internet? Maybe behind a seconde layer of security, IP filtering or something like that?
On one side this is so useful in the everyday life. But on the other this accessing personal file from the internet is kind of fearful.
totti4ever
@totti4ever
Thought about VPN access or just basic auth? I am going with VPN
casimir
@casimir:casimir-lab.net
[m]
A VPN is a lot of configuration and maintenance. Basic auth is actually a nice supplemental security layer.
Jonas Winkler
@jonaswinkler
@casimir:casimir-lab.net Django by itself is absolutely fit for being exposed on the internet. I'm not entirely sure about the state of security in paperless, but as long as you make sure to set the SECRET_KEY and make sure that it can't be accessed with http, you might be alright.
@casimir:casimir-lab.net Correction. This version of paperless uses a heavily outdated version of django, for which extended support (this includes security patches) ended in April of 2019. You should not expose paperless to the internet, at all.
Marco Everts
@Marcopolox13
Hey, is there a way to flag every new upload document as new or unsorted?
totti4ever
@totti4ever
Just use .* as rule or go withpaperless-ng
bauerj
@bauerj:matrix.org
[m]
How does that work with ng? I use that regex trick there as well
nkln
@nkln
Hey guys, anyone running Paperless on UnRaid and encountered errors while uploading files? When i put files into my Samba share nothing happens and when using the Web Uploader it gives me the "An error has occurred while uploading the document. Sorry!"-Message
bauerj
@bauerj:matrix.org
[m]
Anything in your log?
Do you use Paperless or Paperless NG?
totti4ever
@totti4ever
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How does that work with ng? I use that regex trick there as well
nkln
@nkln

Do you use Paperless or Paperless NG?

Paperless NG and yes, gives me the permission denied error for the redis ip + port. Although it should be properly forwarded

totti4ever
@totti4ever
I suggest you open an issue on github for this, makes it easier to post the logs etc
ThomasL
@tht
Hello everyone!
I'm Thomas and I've just discovered Paperless and Paperless-NG a few days ago and I love it! I always wanted to write something like this for myself but life got in the way. Paperless is almost exactly what I was looking for and works perfectly fine in a Docker container. So, thank you! A fantastic project.
I installed Paperless-NG but for my question it does not matter at all. Just wanted to ask if anyone has a good suggestion about how to organize personal documents. I've seen the recommendations in the manual but I'm looking for some more in-depth best-practices or just what works for you.
I started with the usual "Invoice", "Policies", "Contracts" but realized soon that most of my insurance policies come with an invoice attached. So is it an invoice or an insurance policy?
As for the tags I started with "to pay", "taxes relevant", "health insurance relevant", "warranty" and some more. But I face some issues here too. How to get rid of old documents? Create one "warranty" tag per year for the year the warranty runs out? I'm struggling and I feel it will become much harder to fix as there are more documents stored.
So, anyone here really happy with his/hers organization schema and willing to write something about it? Or are there good links I've missed so far?
Thanks a lot!
Jonas Winkler
@jonaswinkler

Hey!

I'm not aware anyone has written some more in-depth guidelines on organization best practices.

I'm doing minimal organization in paperless. How much organization I do largely depends on how often I need to find a certain document. Example: For a recent task (handing in a thesis), I had to collect lots of documents, and access them regularly. Made a tag for that topic and attached all relevant documents to that tag and gave them descriptive titles. On the other hand, bank statements usually don't get any manual organization at all, since I will most likely never access them. I've got a tag for each bank account and paperless assigns that with pretty good reliability. And that's about it.

The whole point of this thing is that you don't have to mess around with the documents all that much. However, what works for me won't necessarily work for you as well.

Regarding your policy/invoice document; you probably want to add that as two different documents. invoices recur anually (probably), but you'll only ever get that policy certificate once.

Regarding old documents: Storing lots of documents digitally is much easier than doing that in paper. I don't exactly see a need to delete old documents. However: Someone had the idea to set "expiry" dates on documents, and mark expired documents for deletion automatically. Maybe that could work.

ThomasL
@tht
Oh, Jonas himself. Thank you for all the work you put into paperless(-ng) :).
Looks like I'm trying to do too much. I'm more of a gatherer and tend to collect stuff. Collecting digital data is just too easy. I already created some tags in my consumer directory and started to do my initial tagging there. There is one folder to pay and one for a task I'm working on since a few weeks. Everything else goes into the inbox and auto-flagging does a great job already.
Looks like your southern neighbors do it a bit different with policies. Most of the insurance companies send the policy every year with the annual invoice. But I decided to label it as policy as this is the important part here and flag it with to pay until they are payed.
Seems like it boils down to "don't overdue it". Thanks for the insights.
Arya Senna
@aryasenna
Am I missing something, or paperless(-ng) does not allow custom metadata/field?
Jonas Winkler
@jonaswinkler
You're not missing anything, paperless does not have that.
DubaiQueen
@DubaiQueen
anyone running Paperless on UnRaid and encountered errors while uploading files? When i put files into my Samba share nothing happens and when using the Web Uploader it gives me the "An error has occurred while uploading the document. dubaiescortstars
brightinnovator
@brightinnovator

Looking for the following features in paperless...Can someone share their views/comments

#1 - Number of matches found on typing in brackets

#2 - Number of matches found of each word + overall sentence. (ex: if a user types "Welcome to java" - Welcome-5, To-10, Java-18, All-2)

#3 - Preview window with next, previous option to navigate the search results

#4 - Open the corresponding document in a internal viewer to search or navigate the search keyword