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Martin Heidegger
@martinheidegger
soyuka: ping
dat-bot
@dat-bot
lachenmayer hi jimpick, when you get a moment could you please merge automerge/hypermerge#8 ? :) trying to npx hm-chat and it's broken at the moment
lachenmayer because hypercore/lib/crypto moved to hypercore-crypto
dat-bot
@dat-bot
mafintosh whoopsie!
dat-bot
@dat-bot
jimpick lachenmayer: i might still have access there because i worked on automerge in the past, but martin kleppmann is doing the releases ... he hasn’t granted me the authority to do that
lachenmayer jimpick: i see, should i ask in the automerge slack instead?
lachenmayer mafintosh: otherwise would it be possible to create a file lib/crypto.js that's just module.exports = require('hypercore-crypto')
jimpick lachenmayer: that’s probably the best bet
mafintosh lachenmayer: yea that's what i meant
mafintosh lachenmayer: send a pr if you thnk that's easier (add a comment to the code why we still have it)
lachenmayer sure will do that :)
jimpick when i used hypercore/lib/crypto, that was really using an undocumented internal interface
mafintosh that's why i made hypercore-crypto :)
mafintosh a couple of days ago
jimpick thank you for that!
mafintosh i wanna continue doing that
mafintosh until hypercore is just a couple of requires
dat-bot
@dat-bot
lachenmayer i have a silly project that did exactly the same thing (vanity-dat), +1 on hypercore-crypto
dat-bot
@dat-bot
lachenmayer mafintosh/hypercore#166
RangerMauve
@RangerMauve
Some friends and I got together this weekend and all made chat apps using dat with the goal of making our apps inter-operable
Got pretty far in a couple of hours. :D
Daniel Lauzon
@daneroo
How'd that go?!
dat-bot
@dat-bot
lachenmayer yeah? that sounds super interesting!
RangerMauve
@RangerMauve
Not bad, nothing really presentable, though. 😅
Daniel Lauzon
@daneroo
Smal steps...!!!
RangerMauve
@RangerMauve
We all went with similar approaches of writing messages to our own dat and then listening on others'
beaker://library/dat://6eda39b5f1d95f6bc885706194e0f909e0e6f0e5db0b92d7b4fb507a738646ba
My WIP
You press the + button and enter the dat URL of the person you wanna see messages from
You fork the app to be able to write messages to it
My goal was that everyone would copy each others' messages to their own dat so that they wouldn't have to follow everyone else, just a couple of people and eventually they'd all converge on the same state
dat-bot
@dat-bot
lachenmayer @RangerMauve are you seeding it currently? beaker can't seem to find it
RangerMauve
@RangerMauve
lachenmayer: I just have it seeding from my laptop. I'm not sure how good my work network is for NAT traversal. 😅
dat-bot
@dat-bot
lachenmayer same tbh
RangerMauve
@RangerMauve
Just added it to Hashbase so it should be more available
dat-bot
@dat-bot
lachenmayer got it now :)
lachenmayer i tried to add a message, do you see it?
RangerMauve
@RangerMauve
lachenmayer: You need to fork it and send your URL to me in order to write and for me to see messages
dat-bot
@dat-bot
lachenmayer ah i see, i was thinking it would automatically join the swarm for any messages that are already in the archive!
lachenmayer but that obviously doesn't work hmm
RangerMauve
@RangerMauve
That's gonna be the goal long-term. There's the ephemeral messaging spec that I've been meaning to play around with.
dat-bot
@dat-bot
lachenmayer coule maybe be solved with the upcoming dat-peers api...! (cc pfrazee :) )
RangerMauve
@RangerMauve
lachenmayer: Yeah, it's gonna be pretty gr8 :D
dat-bot
@dat-bot
pfrazee :) yeah though if yall are having trouble connecting directly you may not get the solution you need
RangerMauve
@RangerMauve
I'm not sure if discovery-swarm is doing using STUN and TURN yet, which could help out a lot for NATs
dat-bot
@dat-bot
pfrazee it's not
RangerMauve
@RangerMauve
So it doesn't know it's internet IP address?
(due to lack of STUN)
dat-bot
@dat-bot
pfrazee we get the IP address via the discovery server
RangerMauve
@RangerMauve
Oh ok, so STUN isn't needed, then.