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David Bashford
@dbashford
So that's server reload on 12.2? I can take a look.
David Bashford
@dbashford
Just pushed a new version with an updated file watcher. If the problem persists let me know and I can dig further.
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@hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
okay awesome I will check it out tonight
also, was curious, is there a module to do a PhoneGap build, if not I'm going to try and piece together something with the jade-static-export and see what I can do
David Bashford
@dbashford
i've never seen a phonegap thing
Anachron
@Anachron
@dbashford no more progress on Mimosa? Busy working?
David Bashford
@dbashford
Yah, pretty much. I've had to choose between the open source stuff and the product development stuff at my work. It definitely pains me not to be making progress on the tests. Been a ton of travel too. Killing me.
David Bashford
@dbashford
I would say, a day later, that I intend to be responsive if folks find bugs anywhere. I can drop into modules or mimosa core for an hour or two here or there to patch things up. Just need a delay on 3.0, which sucks given I am fairly close getting through the pain in the ass part.
Anachron
@Anachron
@dbashford awww that sounds rough. Well I'm spending some time on Rust and Arch-Linux too lately, so I'm not that busy with web programming.
Take your time, there is no hurry as for now. I may have to update a lot of libraries, but that's not your fault anyway.
David Bashford
@dbashford
Lately I've been itching to dig into other languages, if only to play. Go, Rust, Elixir, not sure where I'd start really, but been aching to break away from just JavaScript. And I have no desire to go back to java =)
Ken Carpenter
@mindjuice
Cool. I just started learning Elixir. Seems like a very interesting language. I've also been learning a lot lately about functional languages, functional reactive programming, category theory and more (read through SICP). I have also done more than my share of Java programming. I can't stand it now, and I stay away from Java and all JVM languages. :smile:
Anachron
@Anachron
I also come from PHP and JAVA, while I do have nice things to say about both, I do really enjoy Rust and am very curious about it's future. The safety and speed coupled with good concepts really make it delightful.
Go is just as flexible as JavaScript with better IO and Sync/Threads, but safety is it's price.
Elixir wad unknown to me, however, after a short introduction it seems less powerful than Rust or Go and a smaller Community.
Ken Carpenter
@mindjuice
IMO Go is much less "powerful" than Elixir and Rust. It's missing some key functional programming pieces and doesn't have pattern matching for starters.
Power in programming languages generally seems to come with more complexity, and Rust seems more complex than Elixir. Still, I would like to give Rust a try as well. It seems to have all the functional programming goodies I have recently come to appreciate.
Anyway, this isn't a forum for those topics, so I'll stop there. :)
John-Henry Liberty
@jhliberty
@Anachron that is crazy! How are you faring with that? (Sorry I didn’t realize you had messaged me =D)
Sam Armstrong
@DrSammyD
David Bashford
@dbashford
I get a lot of web traffic from one of his other posts: http://blog.keithcirkel.co.uk/why-we-should-stop-using-grunt/
Sam Armstrong
@DrSammyD
lol
David Bashford
@dbashford
I've seen a lot of talk around the NPM as build tool stuff
Anachron
@Anachron
This guy talks nuts. Honestly, the npm scripts looks really hard to understand (no syntax highlighting as it is in json file) and is getting out of maintenance very quickly, leave alone nearly impossible to do dynamic stuff with it.
For the smallest applications it may work, but everything in a respectable size won't, that's the whole point build-tools like mimosa, grunt and gulp exist.
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@hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Agree with @Anachron , dude lives on the streets of SF probably
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@hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
btw, has anyone tried to integrate Mimosa with LiveStyle + Stylus + LiveReload?
David Bashford
@dbashford
I've not used LiveStyle before myself
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@hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
neither have I, was checking it out and was interested, Mimosa is good in my book :) for anything like that, I think you're looking at diminishing returns if you're talking about saving from the inspector back into the files, I mean the concept is pretty sexy, but at the moment its a bit of an edge case
Sam Armstrong
@DrSammyD
jrburke/r.js#629
huzah!
David Bashford
@dbashford
thats awesome =) Now need to find time to dig into dealing with that.
Samuel Laulhau
@lalop
Hello,
I start to work on a new project build with mimosa
so I discover it
I have "some" issue to make require work on build but I didn't see any configuration on it
First error come from main.coffee requiring ./common that is in the same folder at the build I get this error
....
oups I'm wrong ./common is found but not jquery
How do I specify the vendor path ?
David Bashford
@dbashford
that's a require.js thing, you have in your common.js a path that routes to jquery. like "jquery":"vendor/jquery/jquery"
Samuel Laulhau
@lalop
I have something like that in common.coffee but I tried to log the config and nothing is outputed on build
Samuel Laulhau
@lalop
in fact it's like if the require configuration in common.coffee isn't loaded at build time
Samuel Laulhau
@lalop
I fixed my issue, in fact in common.coffee I built my config dynamically by looping over an array of library name.
Apparently the configuration have to be righten explicitely
David Bashford
@dbashford
If you run mimosa build -ompD then you'll see the r.js config options if that is what you are looking for. Its the -D that does it.
David Bashford
@dbashford
Replying here to a question that @boltforge asked me, I've essentially been stalled for 2 reasons, 1) writing a million tests burned me out a bit and 2) I've had a ton of other things sucking up my time. If anyone wanted to help, it would be in writing tests for the things that are still in CoffeeScript (if they have been converted to .js that means they have had tests written). Once the tests are knocked out I'd be able to focus on a few key features for 3.0 before releasing it. Despite it being 3.0, all the work was started in a 2point4 branch, which is where it lives now.
David Bashford
@dbashford
That said, the tests require a lot to just get up to speed with how they work, and its testing, so not the most fun thing to jump in and help with. =)
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@hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
yeah, these are a little intense, I can see why you may have become a little burned out from this much single-handedly
David Bashford
@dbashford
Been doing more mimosa related stuff the last few weeks specifically in support of my team, so I'm slowing getting back into the swing of things. I won't make any promises but given my work is going to slow down some, I hope to at least wrap up tests before the end of July. Considering the template compiler was 1200 lines, and I've still got some of the bigger things to test, good chance it goes beyond that.
Anachron
@Anachron
Take your time, I'm having bash projects right now, so I am kinda out of web business for now. :)