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    André Costa
    @nogdacosta
    It’s interesting, but we shouldn't show this to some designers. they’ll eventually think that we can and should use and abuse from this type of Library.
    a few years ago I made something similiar to simulate the “multiply” effect. I had to use canvas and something more… but it’s kind ugly (in terms of code / performance)
    Miguel Guilherme
    @mguilherme
    lol, indeed
    João Horta
    @jpamarohorta
    This 2.x version seems better than the previous one
    more options and it looks great
    however you are still limited by their options :\
    Thiago Dantas
    @tdantas
    olá, descobri por acaso o grupo ! público ?
    Ouch, sorry, guys, didn't notice that we are speaking in english here. :( is it a public chat ? ( I think it is hihihi )
    Marcelo Lebre
    @marcelolebre
    it's OK :) welcome
    Thiago Dantas
    @tdantas
    hey, thank you !
    Thiago Dantas
    @tdantas
    anybody here using nodejs or just using js on frontend ?
    Ricardo Otero
    @rikas
    frontend :)
    Marcelo Lebre
    @marcelolebre
    we used node.js and sails.js for a couple of prototypes and proof of concepts :)
    Thiago Dantas
    @tdantas
    @rikas <3 great ! @marcelolebre and nothing in production ?
    are you enjoying sails ?
    André Costa
    @nogdacosta
    node and sails.js just for testing, but nothing on production either.
    Marcelo Lebre
    @marcelolebre
    well, sails is cool enough at the beginning however the documentation is still too sparse and recently the principal contributor had a falling out with the project so things are evolving slowly
    André Costa
    @nogdacosta
    And the guys I knwo that are using Nodejs (sails) on production, are having a really bad time on scaling the product
    Don’t know if it’s the right option… but for proof of concepts it really sounds great
    Marcelo Lebre
    @marcelolebre
    that has been our approach to it
    having an MVC structure, ORM and WebSocket already embedded is kind of cool for the initial push of a prototype or a very basic app, going forward its kind of fix-it-yourself
    Thiago Dantas
    @tdantas
    sails, definitely is not a good option :( regarding prototyping I think hapi/koa are better options. we all know that after you present the 'prototype' working to the Product Owner you sold your soul. there is no more room to start a brand new project :)
    Marcelo Lebre
    @marcelolebre
    well that depends of your initial goals with the prototype ;)
    Thiago Dantas
    @tdantas
    I think prototyping with hapi/express/koa we are faster than sail. and without globals ;)
    Marcelo Lebre
    @marcelolebre
    well, completely different stack
    Thiago Dantas
    @tdantas
    hapi or koa for me , are the best options. ( by now )
    are you using server side rendering or single page app ?
    Marcelo Lebre
    @marcelolebre
    the whole middleware package that sails brings has upsides and downsides, other than that, it all goes down to how experienced you are with it and how confortable you feel with the tools it gives you
    so it's fine
    on a quick note, I'm not going back to sails though :P
    Thiago Dantas
    @tdantas
    Hapi brings the sensible defaults to web out of the box
    Marcelo Lebre
    @marcelolebre
    have you had to scale them?
    hapi or koa i mean
    Thiago Dantas
    @tdantas
    hapi
    yeah
    Marcelo Lebre
    @marcelolebre
    how did it fare?
    Thiago Dantas
    @tdantas
    I didn't have any trouble
    Marcelo Lebre
    @marcelolebre
    horizontally or vertically?
    Thiago Dantas
    @tdantas
    horizontally ftw
    Marcelo Lebre
    @marcelolebre
    direct interface with any type of db?
    Thiago Dantas
    @tdantas
    I used 2 databases. couch and postgresql
    no problem at all
    still working
    Marcelo Lebre
    @marcelolebre
    cool cool cool
    and resilience?
    how much maintenance did you have to do or monitoring for keeping it up?
    Thiago Dantas
    @tdantas
    yeah, the infrastructure team did a really great job
    I worked for 5 months until we finish the project
    and past week I discovered that they are running the same code since past year