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    Julien Bisconti
    @veggiemonk
    On a different topic, have you seen this tool: https://googlecontainertools.github.io/kpt
    configuration-as-data (vs configuration-as-code) .... I did not understand the difference at first but it is a very interesting concept....
    I'd love to talk about it once I know more
    Andrey Devyatkin
    @Andrey9kin

    Q: How is kpt different from other solutions?

    A: Rather than expressing configuration as code, kpt represents configuration packages as data, in particular as YAML or JSON objects adhering to the kubernetes resource model

    FAQ does not really give you much
    I would love the web-site to tell what that is for and what problem it is intended to solve
    from FAQ I get a feeling that it is somekind of GitOps tool thingy for K8S
    Julien Bisconti
    @veggiemonk
    I agree that the website is bad at explaining. The ascii cinema should be converted to documentation: https://googlecontainertools.github.io/kpt/reference/pkg/
    I hate to have to play a video to understand something.
    I see very little different from git submodule command
    Andrey Devyatkin
    @Andrey9kin
    Okay
    That is different
    Andrey Devyatkin
    @Andrey9kin
    Andrey Devyatkin
    @Andrey9kin
    @veggiemonk @mattiashem episode 15 is ready to go out devsecopstalks/website#18 Any final edits?
    Mattias Hemmingsson
    @mattiashem
    Nice looks great! push to button (merge )
    Andrey Devyatkin
    @Andrey9kin
    it is out now
    Julien Bisconti
    @veggiemonk
    Great
    Mattias Hemmingsson
    @mattiashem
    can i share this one
    Andrey Devyatkin
    @Andrey9kin
    sure
    though this link can’t be seen without podcaster login
    if you want spotify link
    Mattias Hemmingsson
    @mattiashem
    I try thanks :-)
    Julien Bisconti
    @veggiemonk
    I was advocating for Docker Swarm more than kubernetes a few years ago because Devs and Ops were overwhelmed and needed a smaller solutions. Especially since it should not require a massive overhaul of everything by moving from Swarm to K8s.... I don't think it is worth it now unless Docker Swarm has a clear set of features that are difficult to implement in Kubernetes.
    Mattias Hemmingsson
    @mattiashem
    wow Docker Swarm still out there :-)
    Andrey Devyatkin
    @Andrey9kin
    Did you read the article? ;)
    it seems that they want to keep docker swarm interface but move backend to k8s
    Mattias Hemmingsson
    @mattiashem
    yee and run swarm inside k8s ? to make it simple for devs ...
    Its hard we have so many nice tools now it was good with swarm was you could have a compose and then point it to server and said go
    Still do all local dev in compose instead if minikube ?
    Andrey Devyatkin
    @Andrey9kin
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Andrey Devyatkin
    @Andrey9kin
    @mattiashem @veggiemonk are we recording this week?
    Mattias Hemmingsson
    @mattiashem
    Yess wednesday ?
    My bad have not send invite will do know
    is 13 ok ?
    Andrey Devyatkin
    @Andrey9kin
    yes
    that will do for me
    also need to pick a topis we can prepare and keep it under 30 minutes...
    Mattias Hemmingsson
    @mattiashem
    yess was super good last time
    Andrey Devyatkin
    @Andrey9kin
    Julien had a good idea yesterday… What was it?
    It was about deleting and archiving things
    Like archiving un-used apps
    we could also talk about keeping AWS accounts nice and tidy as well as k8s clusters
    if we can fit all of it into one hour
    Mattias Hemmingsson
    @mattiashem
    nice topic
    ore we split and take them into 2 episodes
    Julien Bisconti
    @veggiemonk
    @Andrey9kin it was about deleting resources
    Wednesday 13.00 is fine for me