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    Casey Fleser
    @somegeekintn
    Interesting. Netcoin recently switched to KGW and I see this morning that the coin appears to be broken. Not sure it's related though.
    Alan McIntyre
    @alanmcintyre
    I think I would default to keeping the current simple algorithm with increased interval. The fancier the algorithm is, the more likely it has some weird dynamical behavior you never thought to check for.
    and somebody smarter will come along and do some clever variational calculus thing to find an exploit that makes small miners sad
    Alan McIntyre
    @alanmcintyre
    Can I be a wet blanket and ask if it would be better to just make the reward fixed and then re-evaluate whether the difficulty retargeting is still insufficient? Changing two behaviors--especially if we're going to come up with a new retargeting algorithm--seems fairly risky.
    But I don't know if the current feeling in the community is that both things must be changed "right now."
    At any rate, if I can help by running a testnet client or two, please post a message here and I'll be glad to.
    Max K.
    @langerhans
    Well, for the community it has to be done yesterday and we should also integrate ethereum, scrypt-n, scrypt-jane, KGW and whatnot
    Alan McIntyre
    @alanmcintyre
    lol
    "yes please just cram all these features in all at once, I'm a developer and I know nothing could go wrong"
    Max K.
    @langerhans
    I agree though that changing two things at once is not very representative in the outcome. but random block rewards is just for the "block gambling" problem
    Alan McIntyre
    @alanmcintyre
    yeah I definitely think random rewards should go away first
    Max K.
    @langerhans
    The multipool jumping problem is well known. I remember the Fedora community asking for help cause a Multipool jumped off them in mid diff cycle, leaving them with 5 times or so higher blocktimes.
    Alan McIntyre
    @alanmcintyre
    Yeah mooncoin was stuck with multi-day confirm times not too long ago because of that too
    although I think our base hash rate is high enough right now that we may not suffer as much from jumping
    Max K.
    @langerhans
    So I'd say tackling both problems in one fork is somewhat resonable. A fork is always risky. Better fuck up once than twice :D
    Alan McIntyre
    @alanmcintyre
    Just so the retargeting change is fairly simple and not some novel algorithm that nobody has tried before
    Max K.
    @langerhans
    Well, if we really go for 10 minute retarget... I don't know a coin (in our scale) who tried that before
    Alan McIntyre
    @alanmcintyre
    is that the current idea?
    Max K.
    @langerhans
    That's what's in testing currently
    Results seem to be promising
    Alan McIntyre
    @alanmcintyre
    Well at least the current PR is just changing the interval and not the algorithm, which seems fairly safe I suppose.
    Max K.
    @langerhans
    I don't know if they are still looking at other algos...
    voidref
    @voidref
    I wonder if there's a way to block known multis
    Alan McIntyre
    @alanmcintyre
    you mean try to block them from participating in mining?
    Max K.
    @langerhans
    we're currently testing DigiShield
    Alan McIntyre
    @alanmcintyre
    what's that?
    Max K.
    @langerhans
    DigiByte's super new diff retarget algo which seems to be proven multipool proof
    Alan McIntyre
    @alanmcintyre
    ah cool
    Alan McIntyre
    @alanmcintyre
    ah good to see they like the results when multipools have hit them: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=408268.7660
    It's also very nice of the digibyte devs to help dogecoin
    Max K.
    @langerhans
    If we do this, we re should really give proper credit. Such collaboration is pretty rare in the crypto community...
    Alan McIntyre
    @alanmcintyre
    yes definitely
    Jackson Palmer
    @ummjackson
    thanks to everyone who helped make this happen
    you absolutely rock
    Ross Nicoll
    @rnicoll
    evening
    Max K.
    @langerhans
    hi^^
    Ross Nicoll
    @rnicoll
    Looking at the change dogecoin/dogecoin@d0640f9 and specifically HasAddress() in wallet.cpp being used instead of IsChange() - I'm not entirely convinced that's a good idea. Specifically it appears to lose a check about whether checking the address ownership is needed, which sounds good until you realise it locks the wallet to do that check, and the lock will inherently dominate the time taken
    voidref
    @voidref
    rnicoll, can you tell me if my change fix the Linux build?
    ok, this chat iz ded, nm
    Ross Nicoll
    @rnicoll
    voidref, it did, thanks
    Ross Nicoll
    @rnicoll
    voidref, could you try splitting the huge patch down a bit? If you use http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4307095/git-how-to-split-up-a-commit-buried-in-history to split out the PRIszu changes and C++11 changes from OS X-specific, it would make it a lot easier to follow what's going on
    voidref
    @voidref
    yeah, I'll see if I can find the time for that
    voidref
    @voidref
    that article says not to do it if the commit has already been pushed, which it has in this case.
    Stuart P. Bentley
    @stuartpb
    How would I make dogecoind's RPC API multi-tenant? Right now it seems like a lot of it is based around a single wallet / everybody has access to all the wallets
    blackpool-mining
    @blackpool-mining
    wich openssl version for doge 1.10?
    blackpool-mining
    @blackpool-mining
    OpenSSL 1.0.2g is currently installed
    daniel clough
    @balance138_twitter
    hello