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Paul Gowder
@paultopia
Thanks!
Robby O'Connor
@robbyoconnor
then moving to this -- but you'll find that either vim or emacs does everything -- I like emacs
Paul Gowder
@paultopia
I'm embarassed to admit that when I find myself doing commandline editing... I use nano.
Robby O'Connor
@robbyoconnor
dont be
Paul Gowder
@paultopia
:-)
David Mohl
@dvcrn
don't you dare scare off my users @robbyoconnor :p
Robby O'Connor
@robbyoconnor
I didn't scare him off
@paultopia you're still here right?!
If not, let's get the rope...wait that may scare them off
David Mohl
@dvcrn
@paultopia to answer your question if you didn't get it yet, in vim you have a "normal" mode in which you can't type. Most of the time you will be in that mode to navigate, browse, search. If you find a spot you want to edit, you usually "jump" there, go into insert/replace mode and shoot out a burst of characters and then switch back to normal mode
the leader key is a key that works in normal mode. Usually vim navigates one space to the right with "space". We remapped that to be the leader since normal space behaviour is not needed anyway and space is perfect as leader
Robby O'Connor
@robbyoconnor
you're in normal-mode most of the time
Like if I'm typing and thinking -- I'll jump back to normal mode
David Mohl
@dvcrn

@paultopia but I can highly recommend you to make the switch to Atom. SublimeText development is close to non existent and the plugin API very limited.
I wrote the same plugin for Atom and it's light-years ahead. On spacemacs level already - https://github.com/dvcrn/proton

It's still sometimes a bit slow because the way atom is designed but gets faster with every release

Paul Gowder
@paultopia
@dvcrn I actually started with Atom and switched to Sublime Text---because I use a Mac, and all that chromium stuff just sucks the battery dry. I get like 2 more hours after switching from Atom to Sublime and Chrome to Safari. (Plus, writing extensions in Python vs in JavaScript? A no brainer.
David Mohl
@dvcrn
@paultopia Well I'm writing my extensions in clojurescript which a even bigger no brainer for me :p
But yeah the battery stuff is true
sadly
Still since writing proton I completely cut out ST from all my workflows. If I'm on battery I just use vim or spacemacs, if I have power then atom+proton and sometimes spacemacs as well
Robby O'Connor
@robbyoconnor
I have no reason to ever use anything other than spacemacs lately
David Mohl
@dvcrn
give proton a try :p
you might like it
Paul Gowder
@paultopia
Hah, I'm actually learning clojure right now, and kinda loving it... Maybe I'll switch to atom after I get good. Or maybe just go all the way to vanilla emacs and get one of those dippy-birds to press the parenthesis keys all the time :-)
David Mohl
@dvcrn
did you check out parinfer? https://shaunlebron.github.io/parinfer/
You close to never have to think about parenthesis when using it
if you're looking for a project to hack a little bit in clojure, feel free to come to proton :D Always looking for more contributors
Paul Gowder
@paultopia
Oh my god, parinfer looks like pure joy. Write lisps like Python! I'm going to go do a happy dance now. (And thanks! when I get better/decent at clojure I'll totally check out the proton issues for something I can handle)
Robby O'Connor
@robbyoconnor
:)
Katy Moe
@kmoe
yo, is sublimious still under active development?
David Mohl
@dvcrn
@kmoe it is Ina usable state and works fairly well but I shifted main development over to atom with "proton"
If you want to maintain sublimious please let me know but for now I don't want to invest too much time into a dead editor
Katy Moe
@kmoe
ah, as I expected
you say "dead editor" - has ST3 development officially stopped then?
Katy Moe
@kmoe
@dvcrn thanks for the advice - just installed Atom with Proton and it's awesome
it's like the best of Spacemacs and Sublime Text combined
David Mohl
@dvcrn
It didn't stop but 1 build all 6 months with minimal changes is just not going to cut it
Atom is just so much better in everything that is not performance speed
Katy Moe
@kmoe
yeah, performance is the main reason I didn't pick up Atom a while ago
seems better now
David Mohl
@dvcrn
A lot better
But not sublime level yet
Katy Moe
@kmoe
is it limited in some sense by the tech used?
David Mohl
@dvcrn
You sometimes feel it but that's mostly because how heavy chromium is.
Js is getting faster and faster though
I only really feel it on first start
Katy Moe
@kmoe
yeah, it's pretty comfortable
by the way, is there a Gitter for Proton?
David Mohl
@dvcrn
Not gitter but we are on the clojurians slack
Katy Moe
@kmoe
nice, see you there later :)
Artemiy Stepanov
@0xk175un3
Is it in development for now?
David Mohl
@dvcrn
@0xk175un3 currently not