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  • Jun 05 05:01
    krader1961 commented #1044
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  • Jun 01 03:18
    krader1961 opened #1048
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    krader1961 commented #1047
  • May 31 13:17
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    pkg/eval: Support passing any v… pkg/eval/exc: Add exc:is-fail-e… pkg/eval/exc: Rename is-*-error… (compare)

  • May 31 08:27
    hanche opened #1046
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    hanche commented #190
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    krader1961 commented #1043
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    NEXT-RELEASE: Rearrange the new… NEXT-RELEASE: Document the "ord… (compare)

  • May 31 00:44
    xiaq commented #1045
mesajor
@mesajor
[Paradox460(telegram)] @xiaqqaix spammer^
mesajor
@mesajor
[Ian(telegram)] Ironically that's the bot that's supposed to protect from spammers.
[txomon(telegram)] probably someone got their API key or sth (re @Ian: Ironically that's the bot that's supposed to protect from spammers.)
[zzamboni(telegram)] Look at the message: look like the author of the bot is using it to spam about his new project.
mesajor
@mesajor
[Paradox460(telegram)] not a good look
[Paradox460(telegram)] in android we’re thinking about making our own antispam bot; if we do, would you guys want to use it?
[SitiSchu(telegram)] they seriously didn't do that in all groups (re @shieldy_bot: Hi there! It's Nikita, the creator of Shieldy. Over 65 000 chats added Shieldy! It is free and I sell no ads so I decided to tell you about my new project — Todorant.
Todorant is a smart todo list that uses cognitive psychology to make your brain feel pleasure by achieving goals. I created Todorant for myself — and I use it every day — but my friends asked me to give them access to Todorant. And today anyone can use Todorant:
As a website
On iOS
On Android
I outlined the main productivity rules in my post "How I launched 7 products in 1 year" and in the video-summary "How to use Todorant" (just 2 minutes long). Briefly, Todorant makes you add an exact date or month to every task, you only see one task at a time to focus on the main screen, unpleasant tasks are called frogs and should be done first thing in the morning.
I hacked my productivity with the simple rules and made the app so that you could do it as well! Todorant is completely free for the first 30 days, and you can even use mobile apps without login! No strings attached — just try Todorant as a website, on iOS or Android today. This is how you can support free Voicy that transcribes over 90 000 voice messages a day! Thank you!
@borodutch)
[SitiSchu(telegram)] ok yes they did
[pontaoski(telegram)] sure did (re @SitiSchu: ok yes they did)
[SitiSchu(telegram)] could also just self host shieldy (re @Paradox460: in android we’re thinking about making our own antispam bot; if we do, would you guys want to use it?)
[SitiSchu(telegram)] it's open source
[Paradox460(telegram)] the benefit of a lot of these bots though is the shared database; a spammer banned in 10 channels for the same message will get banned in the rest
mesajor
@mesajor
[SitiSchu(telegram)] Shieldy doesn't have bans so not the case in this case
Kurtis Rader
@krader1961
FWIW, The recent spam bot discussion was confusing to me because I never saw the "@shieldy_bot: Hi there! It's Nikita,…” message. I’m reading this via the macOS Gitter app. I suspect there were other messages I didn’t see.
mesajor
@mesajor
[xiaqqaix(telegram)] @krader1961 you couldn't see the message since it was sent by a bot; telegram bots can't see messages from other bots, so it was not forwarded by the bridge
[xiaqqaix(telegram)] I'll consider self hosting if this happens again...
mesajor
@mesajor
[hhanche(telegram)] Now I am having visions of bots sending each other increasingly angry messages, flooding all the groups. 😱 It's a good thing they can't see each other, then. 😅
mesajor
@mesajor
[Rahul(telegram)] Hi
mesajor
@mesajor
[pontaoski(telegram)] ... it looks like elvish panics if you try to log into it from a TTY
[pontaoski(telegram)] that's going to be fun to debug since Linux console doesn't preserve output on logout :D
[pontaoski(telegram)] *get the output of
Kurtis Rader
@krader1961
I "log into" elvish from a tty every single day without incident. I suspect from your second comment you mean you're launching elvish from a serial console login session. If so there are several things that might account for a failure. For example, the termios rows and cols values are typically zero on a serial console.
If you're using elvish built from git master the most important piece of information, the panic message, should be near the bottom of the panic output.
Also, does it leave you in a "rescue shell"; i.e., a /bin/sh shell?
mesajor
@mesajor
[pontaoski(telegram)] nope, it just flashes for a frame or so and then goes back to login screen
Kurtis Rader
@krader1961
Hmmm, that's odd. Does your system not have a working /bin/sh?
Do you actually see elvish display a panic stack or are you just assuming it's panicing because you never see a shell prompt?
mesajor
@mesajor
[pontaoski(telegram)] i see the familiar shape of the panic stack but i can't make out anything due to aforementioned linux console clearing the screen
Kurtis Rader
@krader1961
Are you connecting to the serial console using a true hardware terminal like a Dec VT100 or are you using a PC?
mesajor
@mesajor
[pontaoski(telegram)] PC, tty
Kurtis Rader
@krader1961
Okay, any reason you can't use tmux or a command like script to capture the output of the console session?
Or capture the session with a tool like asciinema.
mesajor
@mesajor
[pontaoski(telegram)] chsh-ing to asciinema would be a bit hacky but I'll try it when I have debugging time :D
Kurtis Rader
@krader1961
I didn't mean that you would run it on the target system. If you're using a terminal emulator on a computer to connect to the serial console you have lots of options to capture the output.
Also, have you confirmed that everything works fine if you make the login shell /bin/sh (or bash, zsh, whatever)? If so what happens if you login using that shell then do exec elvish?
Kurtis Rader
@krader1961
@pontaoski, I installed elvish built from git master branch on Fedora 28 and made it my login shell. I had no difficulty logging into the console of the virtual machine. On the other hand that wasn't a serial console -- just the usual VT console (/dev/tty1).
mesajor
@mesajor
[pontaoski(telegram)] ... fedora 28? that's like three versions past end of life
[pontaoski(telegram)] anyways I suppose I have time to test
[pontaoski(telegram)] in about 20 or so minutes
Kurtis Rader
@krader1961
Yeah, it's an old VM I use to see if I can install things like elvish on a distro that isn't fresh.
Kurtis Rader
@krader1961
Grrrr. Using modules like github.com/zzamboni/elvish-completions/vcsh fails if prerequisites, such as a sufficiently new git command, isn’t available.
mesajor
@mesajor
[uplime(irc)] does elvish have an /etc/inputrc equivalent?
[SolitudeSF(telegram)] edit: API for the Interactive Editor
https://elv.sh/ref/edit.html
mesajor
@mesajor
[zzamboni(telegram)] I don't use vcsh anymore, so I haven't maintained it in a while, but if you would open an issue, I'd be happy to look at it :) (re @mesajorbot: [krader1961(gitter)] Grrrr. Using modules like github.com/zzamboni/elvish-completions/vcsh fails if prerequisites, such as a sufficiently new git command, isn’t available.)
mesajor
@mesajor
[uplime(irc)] SolitudeSF: thanks!
Kurtis Rader
@krader1961
@zzamboni, No worries. It turns out I also was not using your vcsh module and the use wasn’t needed. However, your git completions module, which I do use has similar problems. I’ll open an issue and maybe take a stab at fixing it.
mesajor
@mesajor
[Assiene(telegram)] 13
mesajor
@mesajor
[zzamboni(telegram)] @krader1961 great, let me know if I can help.
mesajor
@mesajor
[Assiene(telegram)] Salut
mesajor
@mesajor
[zzamboni(telegram)] Hi Assiene, welcome