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Alex Beregszaszi
@axic
aren’t most of them working remotely anyway?
5chdn
@5chdn
It would be so much easier, if the earth was flat
Paweł Bylica
@chfast
@axic it does not count if you need a permit to stay
ledgerwatch
@AlexeyAkhunov
I will not join Eth2.0 call today (have nothing to contribute), but I will be listening
Adrian Sutton
@ajsutton
Most of the Pantheon dev team is in Brisbane Australia and we have one in NZ. We don’t tend to make it to these calls often. :)
Danny Ryan
@djrtwo
eth2.0 call in 35 minutes
ethereum/eth2.0-pm#17
Danny Ryan
@djrtwo
Paweł Bylica
@chfast
Hey all,
We are planning to start a progpow testnet.
Geth is ready, Parity WIP, there is also C/C++ library implementation.
I'm considering adding support for progpow in Aleth not to wait for Parity.
But there is also an alternative approach. If you are a client maintainer/dev I can provide a language bindings for your programming language of choice. Then you will be able to participate in the testnet when proper config and switch code is implemented.
Danno Ferrin
@shemnon
Is the progpow spec or implementation under a permissive open source license? i.e. BSD, Apache 2, etc?
Nick Savers
@nicksavers
@shemnon Creative Commons (CC0) - See https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-1057
Lane Rettig
@lrettig
@/all Eth 1.x sync call tomorrow at 14:00 UTC (https://savvytime.com/converter/gmt-to-germany-berlin-united-kingdom-london-ny-new-york-city-ca-san-francisco-china-shanghai-japan-tokyo/2pm), i.e., in just over 18 hours. Agenda (and some discussion about openness) here: ethereum/pm#65.
Danno Ferrin
@shemnon
It’s hard to get more permissive than CC0, thanks.
Just the spec though, impl is GPLv3
Paweł Bylica
@chfast
@shemnon it's Apache 2
Danno Ferrin
@shemnon
This impl is GPL (by virtue of ethminer) https://github.com/ifdefelse/ProgPOW - is there another one out there?
Paweł Bylica
@chfast
Danno Ferrin
@shemnon
nice.
Nick Johnson
@Arachnid
@lrettig Probably more the latter than the former, unfortunately.
Ghost
@ghost~5bf74ce8d73408ce4fafd49f
@chfast What about ethminer there is an ongoing rebase works
Hudson Jameson
@Souptacular
FYI the call tomorrow will have notes released, but without any attribution under Chatham House rules.
If anyone has issues with that feel free to bring them up with me in private or on here.
5chdn
@5chdn
did anyone notice that aleth forked off on stureby? http://boot.stureby.ethdevops.io/
Fredrik Harrysson
@folsen
Personally I've never really understood how Chatham House rules is supposed to help. If someone says a highly controversial statement that is likely to be picked up by press, it doesn't matter who said it?
(Also highly doubt anyone in crypto "journalism" would follow the rules if they attend themselves, but that's a different matter)
Hudson Jameson
@Souptacular
@folsen I think for some people it helps them feel like less of a target to those who tend to take statements out of context. There's been plenty of times individuals who participated in the core dev calls have been quoted out of context in a media article.
Fredrik Harrysson
@folsen
That's problematic for two reasons, that I'm made out to say something I didn't, and that the public believes what was said. Personally I only care about the latter, but understand very much that people care about the first too. Just saying that it doesn't help with the latter.
The false statement will still be out there
And whether they say "Core Devs said:" or "Fredrik said:" doesn't matter to me
anyway.. not important.. and not relevant to this channel :P
Andrei Maiboroda
@gumb0
Looks like aleth got ahead on Stureby mining its own fork, but now other got reorged to its chain.
(except Harmony, looks to be still not reorged now)
So I guess some problems with mined blocks propagation in aleth...
5chdn
@5chdn
Indeed, so Harmony needs to look in reorgs.
ledgerwatch
@AlexeyAkhunov
I am glad that Stureby turned out to be a useful experiment
And grateful to all people who contributed to it
Mikhail Kalinin
@mkalinin

Indeed, so Harmony needs to look in reorgs.

Yep, it can't handle reorgs deeper than 192 blocks without a restart. This part needs improvement

Paweł Bylica
@chfast
@gumb0 Are the recent Aleth changed deployed on Stureby?
Andrei Maiboroda
@gumb0
@chfast yes, recent block propagation improvements are there, but I didn't really expect them to fix this
Looking at logs I see some other problem in the sync now, also not sure it is the cause of what's happening, but fixing it might improve things
Paweł Bylica
@chfast
Well having a flaky node in the network is good test :)
Hudson Jameson
@Souptacular
@karalabe's chain pruning proposal for for his working group: https://gist.github.com/karalabe/60be7bef184c8ec286fc7ee2b35b0b5b
@/all If you are a core developer and do not have the Zoom invitation please DM me via Gitter
To be clear, if you are working on low level Ethereum protocol stuff such as clients, networking layer, EWASM, evm, eth 2.0 you are welcome to attend.
Tomasz Kajetan Stańczak
@tkstanczak
hi Hudson, sent you a DM, thanks
Hudson Jameson
@Souptacular
Agenda: ethereum/pm#65
Adriana Hamacher
@AdrianaHamacher_twitter
@Souptacular - if it's decided the meeting is no longer closed, will you publish the link to join?
Hudson Jameson
@Souptacular
Yes I will if that is the case.
Adriana Hamacher
@AdrianaHamacher_twitter
thanks
Zak Cole
@zscole
productive morning yall