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Lane Rettig
@lrettig
I’ll publish them on Monday!
Lane Rettig
@lrettig
As always please feel free to submit PRs with additions, corrections, clarifications, etc.
I may have missed some attendees as I was typing furiously to keep up
Peter Salanki
@salanki
Someone fixed ethstats.net. Cool!
Noel Maersk
@veox
It gets broken every time someone accidentally connects a node from another network to it. It won't be long before it's back to "normal".
Peter Salanki
@salanki
A very quick hack is to cron a restart every week
5chdn
@5chdn
@veox is there a tracking issue for that?
Noel Maersk
@veox
@5chdn Not one that I've seen.
5chdn
@5chdn
we picked up maintaining it at https://github.com/goerli/netstats-server
could you create one at the goerli repo?
Noel Maersk
@veox
Sure, couple minutes...
(I guess you won't be re-creating the repo without the forked from github qualifier?..)
5chdn
@5chdn
no, why?
Ghost
@ghost~5bf74ce8d73408ce4fafd49f
@salanki @veox @5chdn I will maintain the eth-netstats instead :smile:
Is this cool?
Noel Maersk
@veox
AFAIK users on github don't get green boxes on their contribution feed for commits; but just checked - I did get one for opening an issue, so not sure if this has changed... Perhaps disregard, this is a non-issue.
5chdn
@5chdn
I'll consider it
@naikmyeong this is eth-netstats
Ghost
@ghost~5bf74ce8d73408ce4fafd49f
Yes I know
:smile:
But personally I don't like the changes from netstats-server which is from goerli, it breaks too many features from original one
Maybe fix like this https://stats.callisto.network/ can be applausable but we shouldn't hide any charts or infos from our page
Only theme changes and fix for broken ones :fork_and_knife:
5chdn
@5chdn
check PR 12
grunt pow installs the legacy one
grunt poa creates a dash without stuff like uncles or hashrate
Note that she went to press before the notes were released. So the point of the closed meeting was what?
Ghost
@ghost~5bf74ce8d73408ce4fafd49f
@5chdn Didn't notice that one, thanks :thumbsup:
Greg Colvin
@gcolvin
I suggest that those who fear speaking in public can submit anonymous notes so as not to interfere with the full participation of the community. Or perhaps they prefer their words to be misquoted by journalists with no public recording to correct the record.
Lane Rettig
@lrettig
@gcolvin are you suggesting that she should’ve waited to see the notes before publishing, or that there’s no point in a closed meeting since journalists will be journalists? It wasn’t clear to me
5chdn
@5chdn
In response to your latest tweet, Lane, and along the lines of Greg's last suggestion, I also tend to agree that people who have privacy concerns should join using a pseudonym or submit notes anonymously.
So far we have done more harm than good with these meetings. And it's not only journalists, it's easy to point fingers here, but also the community that's wondering what's going on.
Fredrik Harrysson
@folsen

I would agree with Afri that the privacy of these calls serves little to no purpose. Everyone is restricting themselves when talking in front of 60 people anyway, and no productivity is gained.

Work has always happened in private and will continue to do so, this semi-open semi-private thing only causes confusion.

You're not going to have a productive meeting with more than 5ppl IMO
Nick Savers
@nicksavers
Fredrik Harrysson
@folsen
But I don't want to be involved in governance 😭 😅
I'm just gonna shut up instead :P
Noel Maersk
@veox
@gcolvin Skimmed up to "Ethereum CEO, Vitalik Buterin". Closed as garbage.
Danny Ryan
@djrtwo
:thumbsup:
Eth-Gitter-Bridge
@Eth-Gitter-Bridge
<vbuterin> yeah, only Charles gets to be the ethereum CEO 😂
ledgerwatch
@AlexeyAkhunov
The most productive part of the meeting for me wrt Stat rent discussion was that Vitalik has subsequently published this: https://ethresear.ch/t/common-classes-of-contracts-and-how-they-would-handle-ongoing-storage-maintenance-fees-rent/4441. This will hopefully lead to the drastic simplification of rent proposal (sneak peek: no LCCS - if I manage to implement it in EVM, no priority queue, sample ERC20 contract for rent regime, more data on ERC20 tokens in the state), which would move us closer to convergence at least within the working group
I don't know if he would have done it anyway, without the meeting :)
Greg Colvin
@gcolvin
@lrettig and others. What the others said. I have an interview with Adriana in fiften minutes. A per usual, I have no problem with speaking my mind publicallt, only occasional regrets.
@noel. Journalists get it wrong. Though I think Vitalik is CEO or equivant of the Foundation and Research.
In the meantime, I’ll be counting on inadequate notes and press reports for what goes on in out “secret” meetings.
Fredrik Harrysson
@folsen
@gcolvin It's not just about you. Anything you say has an effect on the price of eth, if you say something that is misconstrued or willfully made to sound negative, you can cause people to lose millions of dollars. You shouldn't just frivolously disregard the fact that you have an impact on people lives.
I'm still in favor of not having any more of these meetings for the sake of ending this conversation though.
Danny Ryan
@djrtwo

I'm still in favor of not having any more of these meetings for the sake of ending this conversation though.

agreed