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Ghost
@ghost~55c3ed250fc9f982beac84b3
@PaoloRebuffo perhaps January-February 2020. The documentation is in the works too
Ghost
@ghost~5b27d590d73408ce4f9dbd7c
is it better to wait for ETH2.0 before creating a new ERC20? what's your advice?
Tim Beiko
@timbeiko
@brincy_twitter you likely will not see ERC 20-like functionality on ETH 2.0 for at least 18 months, if that helps inform your decision
Ghost
@ghost~5b27d590d73408ce4f9dbd7c
ok thanks, but if I create a new erc20 now will I have to recreate it again on ETH2.0?
Tim Beiko
@timbeiko
That is still TBD. Odds are that if you wait long enough, you won’t have too, but it may be quicker to re-create it. Basically, we will have contracts on ETH 2.0 before moving the old ETH 1.0 contracts over. The details of how this “move the old ETH 1.0 contracts over” would happen are still being worked out.
Ghost
@ghost~5b27d590d73408ce4f9dbd7c
old ETH1.0 smartcontracts will have the same capabilities as of a new one on ETH2.0?
with re-create do you mean create a new token on ETH2 and airdrop them all to the token hodlers of the old contract?
Tim Beiko
@timbeiko
I’m not an expert, unfortunately. I think you may find some more information on ethresear.ch or ethereum-magicians.org
Jamie Pitts
@jpitts
Daniele, to add to this, the Eth2 team is aiming for minimal disruption to Eth1 deployed ERC-20s, CDPs, and other common types of smart contract. I would just proceed on building for Eth1 if I were you. It is all in the future but def. watch the guarantees made for the Eth1-Eth2 Transition by the Researchers. https://ethresear.ch/t/the-eth1-eth2-transition/6265
Phil
@phillux
Parity Ethereum has been updated to include the Istanbul block number. We highly recommend everybody update their nodes https://twitter.com/ParityTech/status/1194647569328222208
econoar
@econoar
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Hi all, did we misjudge the difficulty bomb?
If that's it, last time it took only 2 months to get to 20s block times. I've looked at hash rate, uncle rates and block sizes and they all appear normal, so unless it's some other anomaly it would appear to be the bomb.
James Hancock
@MadeofTin
I look into this
econoar
@econoar
Thanks James
Ghost
@ghost~55c3ed250fc9f982beac84b3
time to get rid of those bombs, I think :)
Danno Ferrin
@shemnon
I don’t think we should seriously consider removing the bomb until the finality gadget is working.
econoar
@econoar
@MadeofTin if I remember correctly eip-1234 pushed it 2mn blocks. At the time the estimate was 12 months because block times were 15 seconds (347 days). However block times had actually been around 13.2 which actually puts it at 305 days. We’re not to block 9280000 yet but we’re only 2 months away. The reason the blip could be showing up early is because it was showing up before constantinople too.
James Hancock
@MadeofTin
Yes, something like that. I don't want to speculate too much before I go through the data, but the shorter block-time certainly would have a compounding effect.
Hudson Jameson
@Souptacular
A blog post about Istanbul will be on the ethereum.org blog in the next 36 hours.
Danno Ferrin
@shemnon
Difficulty is 2.5E15, 1.6E11 comes from the difficulty bomb. That’s not an ice age blip.
1.6E11 ~ 2^37. difficulty is on the order of 2^52. My estimate is that in 1.5 million blocks we will be back up to 30 second block times, so Q2 is when we may start observing with the naked eye the ice age.
econoar
@econoar
Hm ok, strange. Didn’t constantinople just push it 2mn blocks though? How can we still be 1.5 million blocks away when we’ve had 1.6mn since that fork?
Danno Ferrin
@shemnon
We weren’t at 30 second blocks.
econoar
@econoar
right, 20ish
Danno Ferrin
@shemnon
my math may be off about the actual onset, but that wasn’t an ice age blip.
we may only be 1 to 1.2 away from 30 second blocks.
Ghost
@ghost~5b27d590d73408ce4f9dbd7c
how much the gas price will be reduced on ETH2.0?
Danno Ferrin
@shemnon
but as block time goes up each ice age epoch takes longer.
There has been no realistic discussions about gas price in Eth 2.0. IMHO phase 1 needs to go into client impl and testnet before anything reasonable can be conjectured.
EIP-1559, however it lands, will have more of an immediate impact on gas price.
James Hancock
@MadeofTin
Also, the decrease in Hashrate will affect when the Iceage is visible as well.
Piotr Gankiewicz
@spetz
Hi, if anyone has some spare ETH on Ropsten network, I'd be grateful for a donation to account: 0x321d9eF3Ea0190C722B95A514e77c442C4a262f8 (we've been testing Nethermind client)
Tomasz Kajetan Stańczak
@tkstanczak
Ropsten ETH anyone? :)
Ideally some slightly bigger chunk of 100 or so would be great and much appreciated.
Ethernal love and so.
Piotr Gankiewicz
@spetz
Thank you very much!
Tomasz Kajetan Stańczak
@tkstanczak
@fubuloubu thanks a lot!
El De-dog-lo
@fubuloubu
NP. I wish I was that rich in real ETH lol
Tomasz Kajetan Stańczak
@tkstanczak
yeah, next time we will try to ask for the mainnet transfer ;)
Hudson Jameson
@Souptacular
@phillux @sorpaas in the new Parity release, what does the chain flag --chain foundation mean?
Wei Tang
@sorpaas
@Souptacular That's what we call the Ethereum blockchain in Parity. You can omit that flag and the client is by default on foundation.
Hudson Jameson
@Souptacular
@sorpaas :/
I don't like that naming as it implies that the Ethereum Foundation has an "official role" in defining what is the main Ethereum blockchain. I understand why it is in though.
Wei Tang
@sorpaas
@Souptacular We have been calling that for quite long time, though. It's just a name anyway. Hope it's fine.
If we change it, we would need to create an unnecessary migration tool, because the name is used for the chain folder.
Danno Ferrin
@shemnon
FYI I’ve been calling it mainnet, to clarify whey I am talking about classic. Is that an OK name?
El De-dog-lo
@fubuloubu
But classic has a mainnet too?
How about --modern?
Tomasz Kajetan Stańczak
@tkstanczak
maybe --vintage and --pioneer?
Danno Ferrin
@shemnon
—historic