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Alexander Klus
@Aeroxander
I really want to use it :D
JOEEE
@grazirocks_twitter
Guys, I'm new here. Can anyone provide me with a link, or any info, on finding out information about ERC95? Please...
rjohnsjr
@rjohnsjr
I'm interested in ERC95 as well... Anybody have the corresponding EIP?
Micah Zoltu
@MicahZoltu
There is no EIP-95. Also, Gitter is no longer used, Ethereum R&D Discord is used now.
Sundial
@TrySundial
Hi,everyone. I find I can't create a topic in ethereum-magicians? Is anyone could tell me how to create a topic?
Bongan Ha
@unamed12

Hi guys - I'm not sure this question is suitable for this chat, but I'd like to ask this question to you guys on this chat.

Currently, I am looking for the SHA3-256 (SHA3 FIPS 202, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-3 1) hash function on the solidity to develop a new smart contract using this hash function. But, I haven’t found any related information regarding SHA3-256 on the solidity. So, I'm trying to prepare an EIP for this.

Is there anyone who feels we need the SHA3-256 function on solidity? I'd like to know the needs of the community before I write the EIP.

Thanks!

Lenard Frommelt
@JhonnyJason
Hi guys, has somebody a pointer to to latest evolutions of ERC20 - extensions improvements, fixes, discussion?
I'm just now on a token-creation journey and just know about specific not really standardized "standards" as upgrade or extension to ERC20 because of some problems I don't agree with xD
I know about this: https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/20#issuecomment-263524729 but this discussion is closed
Lenard Frommelt
@JhonnyJason

Hi guys - I'm not sure this question is suitable for this chat, but I'd like to ask this question to you guys on this chat.
Don't worry I think it's suitable - somehow most people appear to be involved too much with their stuff though^^...

Or well I also did not find a more suitable place yet xD as on the discord group of ethereum hackers there also is not too much of an activity

Currently, I am looking for the SHA3-256 (SHA3 FIPS 202, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-3 1) hash function on the solidity to develop a new smart contract using this hash function. But, I haven’t found any related information regarding SHA3-256 on the solidity. So, I'm trying to prepare an EIP for this.

The thing is you do have the function keccak256(bytes)

Micah Zoltu
@MicahZoltu
Reminder @JhonnyJason @unamed12 @Machael-lcg This Gitter channel is no longer used. The Ethereum R&D Discord server now is where EIP editing discussion occurs.
Guardian_ttv
@GuardianTtv_twitter
was there a timeline on eip 1559 release
Sam Richards
@samajammin
@GuardianTtv_twitter check out https://hackmd.io/@timbeiko/1559-updates
My guess (not knowing much): tail end of this year
akintos17
@akintos17
This discussion is closed I guess??
Micah Zoltu
@MicahZoltu
@akintos17 Everyone has moved to Discord.
akintos17
@akintos17
Oh i see!
You got the discord link?
Micah Zoltu
@MicahZoltu
@akintos17 Are you looking for Ethereum R&D Discord server, or Crypto Development Discord server?
KaiRo
@kairo:mozilla.org
[m]
Discord is a closed service with very bad ToS, I will not join that
Micah Zoltu
@MicahZoltu
Out of curiosity, what about the ToS do you dislike over Gitter's ToS?
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akintos17
@akintos17
Crypto development discord server
Micah Zoltu
@MicahZoltu
KaiRo
@kairo:mozilla.org
[m]
And reading the Discord ToS, I shiver. They get full copyrights and any others rights on anything posted there, for example. And many other things I do not intend to sign on for.
Greg Colvin
@gcolvin
Full rights to what I write? So if I take what I post there and incorporate it into my own work I’ve violated their rights? Fuck that.
I think I may need to make a bigger stink on the Discord channels, @kairo:mozilla.org.
KaiRo
@kairo:mozilla.org
[m]
Well, I won't use Discord unless I'm paid for it, and as I'm not paid for any EIP stuff at this time, I won't be there to even make a comment or "stink"...
I was interested in the EIP process as our team may want to drive something through the standardization process at some point, but I guess we'll just cross that bridge when we get there.
Greg Colvin
@gcolvin
I’m contracted to do some Ethereum work, @kairo:mozilla.org, but most of what I do is volunteer, and long predates the move to Discord. So I’m in a bind there. I’m already taking more risk legally than I’d like as a core developer, and this doesn’t help.
KaiRo
@kairo:mozilla.org
[m]
I fully understand, I wouldn't be happy either
Brent Allsop
@BrentAllsop
Making a "stink" about a "stink" move us towards no "stink", doesn't it?
Greg Colvin
@gcolvin
I don’t know, but doing open development on closed platforms stinks, period.
KaiRo
@kairo:mozilla.org
[m]
That said, for quite some time, finding a decent open alternative to Discord and Slack was hard, but Matrix/Element (which has taken over Gitter as well) is pretty decent already and getting better all the time. I was pretty happy when slightly less than a year ago, Mozilla switched to Matrix for synchronous messaging with the community (as that's been the main project I have been involved in over the years) and it has grown on me even more since.
Greg Colvin
@gcolvin
They all suck, I think ;) At least Gitter integrates with Github fairly well. But I’ve been happy enough with email for a long time.
Micah Zoltu
@MicahZoltu

And reading the Discord ToS, I shiver. They get full copyrights and any others rights on anything posted there, for example. And many other things I do not intend to sign on for.

Do you happen to have a specific quote/line for this? I find it quite surprising.

I did a cursory look through their ToS and I don't see anything about giving up copyrights by talking in Discord.
Greg Colvin
@gcolvin
"By uploading, distributing, transmitting or otherwise using Your Content with the Service, you grant to us a perpetual, nonexclusive, transferable, royalty-free, sublicensable, and worldwide license to use, host, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform, and display Your Content in connection with operating and providing the Service."
Brent Allsop
@BrentAllsop
I see "nonexclusive" in there, so is that still a problem?
Greg Colvin
@gcolvin
Not sure.
https://matrix.org/legal/terms-and-conditions
"We do not claim intellectual property rights over rooms, message content or files uploaded to the Service."
So why does Discord need so much more?
Micah Zoltu
@MicahZoltu

[...] in connection with operating and providing the Service

I believe that this last bit is pretty critical.

My interpretation is that they don't have rights to use your content for whatever they want, only "in connection with operating and providing the service".
Meaning if they were to start publicly publishing chat history somewhere else they would be allowed to do so.
Greg Colvin
@gcolvin
Maybe. I’m not a lawyer, and don’t want to hire one. I worry about " modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from"
Micah Zoltu
@MicahZoltu

So why does Discord need so much more?

I believe it may be a matter of Discord has a more anal retentive legal team. In my experience, this is usually what causes people to go from The Unlicense to CC0 to Apache 2.0.

The Unlicense is like 3 sentences and basically says "do whatever you want". CC0 is a few pages and says the same thing. Apache adds in (unfortunately) attribution and (fortunately) patent protection.
People who just want to write code and don't hire lawyers use The Unlicense. Big companies refuse to use anything short of Apache license (even though it requires attribution and they don't actually care about attribution) because it is much more specific/explicit.
An example of "modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works" could be as simple as putting an excerpt of your text on the front page of Discord.com as part of promotional material like "see what people are chatting about in Discord now!" where they take it out of context and perhaps add some artistic flair to it.
FWIW, I am a fan of Matrix and I'm hoping they can get their client to be on-par with Discord in terms of functionality, features, reliability, responsiveness, etc.