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    Micah Zoltu
    @MicahZoltu
    I mean, where a smart contract is A.
    I guess it could check to see if A has code associated with it or A has transactions signed by it?
    If so, then a transfer from A' to A can be initiated (gas paid for) by anyone.
    Qhuesten
    @Qhuesten_twitter
    that lowers security of an address, but I guess not that much if the distance is only one
    better solution would be to implement new address format that would have redundancy
    problem with ENS is that its voluntary, new address format would be mandatory (given that users would adapt it to their software)
    Micah Zoltu
    @MicahZoltu
    Yeah, there has been discussion in the past of making Ethereum addresses be error correcting or at least error detecting.
    Qhuesten
    @Qhuesten_twitter
    yeah, I don't think ENS is the solution for getting away from that
    Greg Colvin
    @gcolvin
    Micah Zoltu
    @MicahZoltu
    @gcolvin Relevant to what?
    There is a certain class of user errors that can be recovered relating to people using test accounts/contracts on main net on accident.
    Greg Colvin
    @gcolvin
    Thanks @MicahZoltu . Didn’t know if that class had been discussed here.
    Micah Zoltu
    @MicahZoltu
    I'm not sure if it has been discussed very extensively.
    norm
    @norm:coolkids.serveirc.com
    [m]
    hello, anyone know why my mnemonic phrase would have so many incorrect words? It has 12 words but only like 3 are valid according to the recovery tool i tried using. I do also have some 40 character hex that isn't the wallet address. am i just screwed?
    Micah Zoltu
    @MicahZoltu
    @norm:coolkids.serveirc.com It sounds like your recovery phrase is using a different dictionary. All tools should use the same dictionary, but it is possible the tool you originally used had a different dictionary.
    40 hex characters sure sounds like an address...
    norm
    @norm:coolkids.serveirc.com
    [m]
    So I guess I need to try to figure out which wallet/tool I was using previously?
    Micah Zoltu
    @MicahZoltu
    @norm:coolkids.serveirc.com Yes, or find a copy of the dictionary used at the least.
    norm
    @norm:coolkids.serveirc.com
    [m]
    Alright thanks guess I’ve got some work to do
    gavvla
    @gavinwildon_twitter
    I have 206eth stuck in a geth/mist wallet, transferred in April 2017. Around the end of 2017, I deleted the "Ethereum" folder to free-up space on my disk, & the Keystore, complete with Private keys, went with it. The disc is SSD, so recovery impossible. (tried this, via data recovery company). Here's the link: https://etherscan.io/address/0x0f3074e4f45359af02c22272ba113b0e3a7dee9d#tokentxns - Is there any way at all I can at least register these funds as mine, or even any likelihood that I'll ever be able to retrieve them, given the situation?
    norm
    @norm:coolkids.serveirc.com
    [m]
    did you possibly write down the seed phrase?
    oh nvm it was a mist wallet
    and i thought i fucked up deleting the keystore of 3 eth rip
    gavvla
    @gavinwildon_twitter
    The first thing I noticed was when I l;oaded the wallet, balance was zero (prev. 206-)
    norm
    @norm:coolkids.serveirc.com
    [m]
    I thought i had saved the seed phrase of my wallet, but turns out that was just mist's weird phrase system or some shit, not a recovery
    gavvla
    @gavinwildon_twitter
    Then went on a long, painful journey of realising that they were gone for good. Fun Fact: with an SSD disc, when you delete data, it really is completely gone, unlike tape drives.
    norm
    @norm:coolkids.serveirc.com
    [m]
    yeah I didn't bother trying to recover mine, I had repartitioned data and moved shit so even on like an hdd i probably would have been screwed
    gavvla
    @gavinwildon_twitter
    I can view the ETH, & they will be there for eternity. Sent from my polo exchange wallet, due to "never leave your funds on an exchange" - expensive advice!
    norm
    @norm:coolkids.serveirc.com
    [m]
    lol you really shouldn't leave it on an exchange but you probably should have got a hardware wallet as well whcih is what i learned from it, i also learned a lot about how wallets actual work in the process
    gavvla
    @gavinwildon_twitter
    If there's a service where we can at least register the ETH as owned by, but not accessable by, the owners - however I can see how that would be fraught with problems
    Exactly that - I bought a Ledger Nano S, about 3 months too late!
    norm
    @norm:coolkids.serveirc.com
    [m]
    rip
    I've not heard of such a thing, not even really sure what that would accomplish
    gavvla
    @gavinwildon_twitter
    I'd see it as "in lieau of a future solution" possibly?
    norm
    @norm:coolkids.serveirc.com
    [m]
    you sure you didn't back it up anywhere possibly?
    gavvla
    @gavinwildon_twitter
    I've checked every usb-drive, every spare, it's nowhere. I did read a thread on the github forum where several other people had the same issue, no mention was ever made by the devs to GUARD THE KEYSTORE FILE / PRIVATE KEYS WITH YOUR LIFE!!! They were far from happy with the dev, who even chimed-in with "maybe we'll add that to the installation guide - !!!! Barn Door wide-open. Horsey gone.
    norm
    @norm:coolkids.serveirc.com
    [m]
    yeah, i used mist as well, pretty pissed with it espcially since i thought i backed up what i had thought was the recovery phrase
    turned out it was just some weird mist specific shit which wasn't related to recovering the wallet itself
    gavvla
    @gavinwildon_twitter
    Had I known how essential it was, ... to be wise, after the event. Last software wallet I'll ever use.
    norm
    @norm:coolkids.serveirc.com
    [m]
    well mist is already deprecated... so yeah..
    gavvla
    @gavinwildon_twitter
    Along with you & me, there seems to be MANY people in similar situations, surely something can be done? I'm surprised there's not more of a movement around this kind of issue with Ethereum. Especially given the current price.
    This is the only boo-boo I've made with crypto, but also an extremely expensive one. Current value of lost eth is around £260k, this would be useful, given these times we're in.
    norm
    @norm:coolkids.serveirc.com
    [m]
    yeah i'm sure, just don't beat yourself up too much about it
    gavvla
    @gavinwildon_twitter
    I would pay handsomely for any assistance with recovery, a feature known as TRIM on the SSD hard-disc means it's next to impossible to recover it. I have a corrupted .JSON file which I've made extensive efforts to restore, without success, & don't think this alone would allow restoration of the wallet.
    mist wallet was just ridiculous, as well as waiting for it to download ~40Gb of blockchain, should've set alarm bells ringing.
    norm
    @norm:coolkids.serveirc.com
    [m]
    yeah, there might be someone who would be able to do it, but i couldn't point you to where you need to go
    i can't remember having to do that, but i never really used the computer much on the partition it was on, i guess it was about 70gb partition so maybe i had
    gavvla
    @gavinwildon_twitter
    Even a class-action lawsuit against the morons who developed this awful wallet, claimed by the many people who lost funds due to it.
    mayngutsy
    @mayngutsy
    Ok I sent 1 ethereum from my Trust wallet to an Ethereum Smart Contract address on The Binance smart contract and I didn't receive back neigther BNB or Ethereum back