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Aug 2017
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:02
Im still restartinh
Restartimg
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:10
I tried again but still access denied
Whatshould i do?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:13
It must be the firewall or anti-virus or a lock file left behind.
Try launching MIst
Can you run Mist as admin?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:14
Yes I will try it now
I have some troubles
Please help
Nothing is wprking on my computer
The files that have data in appdata roaming are not working
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:19
What do you mean by not working?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:19
The wont open
Crhome wont open
My telegram gives me error
It says can delete a file in roaming folder
And all of the softwares are having problems
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:20
That is not unusual.
The fact that you can't delete files.
Windows protects certain folders.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:20
The worked before but now its not
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:21
You did not delete anything, right?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:21
Yes
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:22
Are you logged in as yourself or admin?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:23
I just logged to my account in windows
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:24
So, what happens when you try to run apps?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:24
Chrome does not open with no error
When I try to open telegram it sais can delete log.txt in roaming folder
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:24
What is the error?
cd \
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:25
it gives 10 line error
couldn't delete c:\user\admin\appdata\roaming\telegram desktop\log.txt
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:26
You need to restart the machine again. Don't run any ether stuff, just check old apps.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:26
and more line simular this error
I restart it again
nor working
you know there is a wiered thing here
after I log in
my desktop comes up
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:27
You cannot restart the machine?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:27
after dew seconds a blue wallpaper comes up with no info
and then it disappears
and I can't open anything
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:27
Hard restart then.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:27
How to do that?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:28
Press the power button.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:28
OK
I'm doing it
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:29
Have you ever used chkdsk /F? You may want to check your disk for errors.
Did you back up your keyfile yet? This would be the first thing to do asap.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:36
what do you mean by chkdsk \f?
I should type it in CMD?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:37
Not right now.
Is your laptop behaving better?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:37
no
I have still problems
How about I delete all ethereums stuff?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:38
Before you start deleting anything, you have to back up your account keyfile.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:38
what do you mean by that?
How should I do that?
?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:40
The keyfile is in Ethereum/keystore folder.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:41
I should put it on my flash?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:41
You have to make a copy somewhere else, like an USB drive.
Yes, a flash drive.
If you lose the file, you lose the coins.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:41
done that
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:42
it starts with UTC?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:42
yes
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:43
Ok. Now you can try to delete Ethereum stuff. Although I'd be surprised if Ethereum is causing all this.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:43
So if its not the ethereum causing this problem what is it?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:43
Hopefully it has an uninstaller. Use the system's uninstaller.
Not sure what's causing it.
How much disk space do you have?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:48
I deleted all the files
I hard restart my laptop
Its still redtarting
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:48
By using an uninstaller, right?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:48
yes
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:49
Don't press the power button to restart normally. Only as a last resort.
It may damage the file system.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:49
ok
Not wotking
:worried:
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:50
Not working how? Not booting?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:51
My apps are not opening
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:51
What happens when you double click?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:52
for chrome nothing
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:52
It does not run?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:52
no it doesn't tun
Some of my softwares work some od them doesn't work
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:53
if you click on the windows icon and enter chrome into the form, still does not start?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:54
nope doesn't starts
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:54
Maybe it is just the shortcuts that got damaged.
see in the command window if you have chkdsk on the system
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:55
How should I do that?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:55
open command window
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:55
OK
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:55
type chkdsk
c:\chkdsk
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:57
Access denied as you do not have sufficient privillage
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:57
become admin
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:57
You hsve to invoke this ito;oty running in elevated mode
run it as admin
?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:57
yes.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:58
The type of the file system is NTFS
Warninr! f parametr not specified
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:58
you can the disk first with "chkdsk" it will not change anything. If you find errors you can fix them with "chkdsk /F"
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:58
running chkdsk in read only mode
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 00:59
How large is your disk? It may take a while.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 00:59
Stage one completed
0 bad file
What should I do if i found a bad file?
chkdsk /F?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:02
Yes.
It may be indexes or other problems.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:02
it has been done the search
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:03
It found no problems?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:03
Where should I see the problem?
There is nothing named bad file in stage 2
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:03
It should tell you if there problems.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:04
Aha
It told me
Its has found problems
told me to type chkdsk /scna
scan
to find the problem
Should i type that or chkdsk /F?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:05
Yes, and then restart (normally, not with the power button)
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:06
Cannot lock current drive
CHKDSK cannot run because the volume is in use by another process
would you like to schedule thid bolume be checked next time system restarts?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:06
yes
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:07
this volume will be checked next time system restarts
So I should restart it now?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:07
yes
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:08
Restarting normally
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:09
How old is this diskdrive?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:09
1 year
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:09
ssd, sshd, hd?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:09
I don't know that but I guess its ssd
By the way when I restart it at first
It told me its updating windows
I wait for it to be done
And then my windows came up
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:10
strange
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:10
Now that I'm restarting it again it again told me there is and update
so its updating again
30% completed
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:12
If it did not do the chkdsk /F may have to do this again.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:13
to do what again? restart or update?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:13
to fix the disk.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:13
how?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:13
chkdsk /F
Not so much the disk but the NTFS.
Maybe the update will fix some shortcuts. You could always reinstall Chrome, no big deal.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:16
OK
Now its telling me
Scanning and repairing drive (C:)
You know its now just chrome that have problem
sorry
not
not just chrome that have problem
54%
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:18
Did you stop chkdsk?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:18
What do you mean?
As you said I said yes next time check and repair
and then restart my windows
and it updated its self
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:19
Did you interrupt it in the middle?
Or did it finish repair?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:19
No its still working
55%
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:20
Ok.
Are the other programs available for free?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:22
Yes
But its hard for me download all again
there is no problem with that
I scare if there are other problems in y computer
for example not installing otherapps
or not connecting to internet or other ...
Installing the apps is not the main problem
the main is that does it cause other things or not?
100%
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:24
Is chkdsk done?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:24
it disappered and my laptop camed up again
and its showing 100% now
No other actions
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:25
Has the machine booted? Do you have your desktop?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:25
no its still telling me scanning and repairing drive
i100%
now it again disapeared
OK
getting windows ready
working on updates
OK. I'm logged in to my laptop
Its not working
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:28
Not working in what way?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:28
the apps still have errors
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:28
what errors?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:28
let me try to download chrome from my other laptop
the chrome is not coming up with no error and my telegram has still the error that it can't delete and rewrite a file in roaming
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:29
You have to become admin and try to delete that file.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:31
I opened it as admin but still give me the error
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:31
not open as admin. Login as admin and then try to delete. Make sure you close telegram first.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:35
I don't know what will happens next if I delete it
let me check
Still error
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:36
You can rename it instead.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:36
I renamde it
then I opened it again
and it maked another log.txt
still giving me error
even my internet explorer is not working
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:37
Did you reopen it as admin?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:38
no
I'm trying to install chrom again
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:39
After you renamed this file, and there was no longer any file, Telegram still had an error?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:39
yes I run it again and it made another log.txt file
and ived me errors
Do you know which kind of things are in roaming folder?
I mean exepct I should install my apps again
Is there any other problem it may make for me?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:40
Probably temporary files.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:40
from the softwares
?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:41
Before you do anything, take a look at your environment variables.
See if that folder is defined somewhere.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:41
how to do that?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:42
On Win8 not sure. Probably right-click on the computer icon, then properties menu.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:43
done that
next?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:43
"advanced" tabe
tab
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:44
then?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:44
Do you see on the button "Environment Variables"?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:44
yes
clicked on it
next?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:45
Click on that but be careful not to change anything.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:45
ok
what should i do now?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:45
Take a look at different variable to see if any of them contain "roaming"
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:46
no
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:46
Did you see the entire strings?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:47
what do you mean by that?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:47
For that you may have to click edit and use arrow keys, but careful not to change anything.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:48
non of them have roaming
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:48
Ok.
temp or tmp variables have what?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:49
yes there are
TEMP and TMP
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:49
What are their values?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:49
C:\windows\Temp
C:\windows\TMP
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:49
Ok.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:50
so next
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:50
Try reinstalling Chrome as yourself
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:50
I tried
It doesn't open
after the installation
the same problem before
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:51
Were you installing as yourself or admin?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:52
my self
Every app I have that has a file in roaming
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:52
Did you originally install as yourself?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:52
Has a problem
So certenly there is a problem with the roaming folder
other apps that are not realeted to roaming are wokring well
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:54
Can you rename the roaming as admin, then logout, login as yourself and create roaming? By the way, what file do all those apps have there?
I have an idea. I am not sure if Windows 8 can have files owned by different users.
I wonder if the folder ownership was changed to admin.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:56
So you mean create a new user for my windows?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:56
No.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:57
Can you tell more about it?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:57
what folders/files do you have in roaming now?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:58
some of them are empty
Some of them are json
some of them are datas
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 01:59
Are you admin now?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 01:59
yes
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:00
Have t o google how one can change ownership of folders/files in Win8.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:01
The ownership?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:01
I suspect a folder in the roaming path is now owned by admin.
Can you open Chrome as admin?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:03
yes
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:03
Yes, it works or yes you will try?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:04
try
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:08
OK
So let me tell you a great news
I maid another account on my laptop
so it has another appdata folder for its self
so its working now for my new account in windows
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:09
Ok, that's good.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:09
So now I will turn back to my old account to see can I fix it
Yes thats great
Thanks to you
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:10
That link tells you how to change ownership of folders.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:10
Thanks I'm checking it
I should change the ownership of roaming?
folder
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:12
Every folder and file down from roaming. If it is not enough then higher.
Clearly every account gets its own roaming folder, it has to be owned by that account.
What is the full path to roaming?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:14
c:\user\new\roaming for new account
Ok So the ownership of roaming is admin
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:14
Hm.
There is no user name in the path?
Did you create an admin account or a regular one?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:16
name: c\users\admin\appdata\roaming
owner: admin (mahdi/admin)
My username in windows is admin
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:17
It's getting confusing. The new account has admin privileges?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:18
no my new account has its own roaming folder
its in c:\users\mahdi
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:19
Ok, I see. And it works.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:19
Yes
But my main account that has problem is not working
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:21
Now that you have a backup account, you can rename roaming as admin, logout, create a new roaming as the old user, and copy the contents. Can you check if you have "xcopy" on your machine?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:23
So I should change the name of roaming folder to admin?
And ahah
OK got it
I will do it now
This is a better link for Win 8 if you want to try to just change ownership by hand.
No change roaming to roaming.bak or roaming2
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:29
I read it and I done it
Thanks for the link
Waiting to changes get apply on my laptop
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:35
I changed to ownership
And run chrome as admin
but didn't run
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:37
Changed all folders/files or just roaming?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:39
Just roaming folder
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:39
You can look at the permissions in the new account's folder as a quide.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:39
I thought all the files are there so If I change it the files that are there would be all changed
I can't change the name of the roaming folder
What should I do now?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:41
Permission denied?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:41
no
error 0x80070057: the parametr is incorrect
What should I do?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:46
rename roaming roaming2 gives you that error?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:46
yes
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:47
Do you have xcopy on your system?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:48
what do you mean by xcopy?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:48
it is a command
xcopy.exe
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:49
No I don't have a XCOPY
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:49
if you go into the roaming folder can you see which files Chrome is probably using?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:50
yes
there is a folder for crhome
but there is nothing in it
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:50
empty?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:51
yes
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:51
Maybe there are hidden files. Otherwise why have a folder?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:52
I checked to see the hidden files
I guess after I unistalled it got empty
But there must a problem that it can tun up
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:53
When you tried to reinstall Chrome, did the installer complain about not being able to write files?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:53
No
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:53
As yourself, not admin.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:54
as my self
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:54
You can boot into maintenance mode, and try rename that folder.
by the way, the new account also has a different appdata folder, right?
is it appdata\roaming ?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:56
yes
another question I'm trying to install mist in my new user
The CMD is working great
no access denied
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:57
You did not look at the permissions/ownership of that folder, did you?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:58
Yes I did. You send me a link to change the ownership
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:58
just roaming? Or appdata AND roaming?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:58
meanwhile can I know how much cmd might take to install to blocks?
It just write ipmorted new state enterprise
and goes down
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 02:59
Timewise from scratch?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 02:59
In cmd I done the things you told me
and now its doing the job
no access denied error
So I want to know how much it my take until the install be completed
the blocks I mean
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:00
About 1.5 days.
1 1/2
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:00
So it should be open for 1.5 days?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:01
open? The laptop?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:01
the cmd
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:01
unless you run in background.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:01
So my laptop should be onfor 1.5 days write?
right?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:02
Yes, and then to keep up to date.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:02
What will happens if I sign out from my account?
Does it still works?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:03
You have to sync up every time you want to see up to date balance or to make a transaction.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:03
What?!
For example i want to make a transaction I should make it p to date to it?
So it may take 1.5 days for each trasaction?!
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:03
No.
Just the new blocks have to be downloaded.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:04
each day how many block will be created?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:04
I don't know. It is not much. 1 block every 10 minutes I think.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:05
So its not too much
OK
So back to the main problem
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:05
But hundreds of transactions in a block.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:06
With CMD I download block right? I mean each scond for example 500/000 blocks
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:06
probably.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:07
How can I find out how many blocks have been downloaded?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:07
geth shows how far you got. It is about somewhat above 4 million blocks now.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:08
When cmd is running can I open geth.exe?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:09
What do you mean? geth.ece will be running in cmd
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:10
I want to see how many blocks have I downloaded from cmd
Should i open mist or do something else?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:10
You could if you like.
but geth will be printing out its progress.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:10
It doesn't make any problem in cmd working?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:11
What?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:11
If I open mist does CMD still download blocks?
Or because the mist is open it will stop?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:11
Sometimes I thought it did cause problems.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:12
So its better not open it until the download is completed
?
riddles2000
@riddles2000
Aug 10 2017 03:13
Yes
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:13
Mist gets info has to be updated, it slows things down. I am not sure if it causes more serious problems
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:14
ok
So what will happen if I close the cmd?
riddles2000
@riddles2000
Aug 10 2017 03:14
Blocks blocks and more blocks
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:14
the window in which you run geth?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:14
I mean if I open it again does it download from first or it will download the blocks that haven't been downloade
riddles2000
@riddles2000
Aug 10 2017 03:15
Doesn't matter just pauses just open the wallet start working you don't need to update
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:15
It downloads from the last, just the new blocks.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:15
OK thnks
Can I have your email?
For more questions? If possible?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:16
This is the place for that. Maybe someone else will find it useful.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:17
OK
Thanks a lot for your helps today
But I don't know still what to do with my other account
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:18
No problem. Too bad about the roaming problem. Look at all the permissions on the new account and set things the same way.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:18
ok
Can I deleted my old account?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:19
Don't you have some app data you want to keep?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:20
I have some data that can be copied to my USB
otherwise my windows was to slow because of my apps
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:20
You can delete the user, but you may have to delete the folders in maintenance mode.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:21
What will happens if I delete a user?
Doesn't the file that user have get deleted?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:22
The credentials will be deleted, but given that some folders may have weird permissions, not everything may be cleaned up.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:22
But a huge part will be deleted?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:22
Yes.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:23
ok
So I will come back tomorrow for more info
I don't know how to thank you for the help you maid for me today
Thanks you very very much
Hope best for you ;)
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:24
Thanks.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:24
Again thank you for the help
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:25
There was another guy who had a worse problem than you. He sent his real ether to his test account on rinkeby.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:25
OHHH
Did it fixed?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:26
I came up with the solution. So yes.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:26
You're the best;)
Do you mind if I ask you some questions about token?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:27
But sometimes it is not possible to help. I saw a guy saying he forgot his paaword.
pssword.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:27
OH
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:27
And wanted help to fix it. LOL.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:27
lol
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:28
If I had a time machine I could help.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:28
:smile:
If I make a token by my self and want to sell it how an i do that?
I should do it with my hands?
I receive a money form a user and give him tokne?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:29
I have no idea, I am trying to figure things out myself.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:29
oh
OK
I just wanted this app to make my own token
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:30
The problem is not how to create a token, that's pretty simple.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:30
Well for me it wasn't a complete day you helped me to do it lol
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:30
The problem is to how to promote, market your token.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:31
Thats the exact part that is easy for me
I just need some info about sending and receive it automatically. Then I'm ready to be in the market
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:32
So, people create a website, write a white paper, put up stuff on twitter, FB.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:32
This is the advertisment part
They should make systems that supports their tokens
Having this part need a lot of customers that you've had
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:33
Who is they?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:34
For example you can make your own exchange site
make advertisments
receive curtomers
now you can add a new currency to your exchange
Its your token
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:34
What would you do to attract people to your site?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:35
there are a lots of ways
The most importent thing is google
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:35
Would you buy ads?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:35
Yes
It makes you a lot
cause a lot people daily search for exachnge
If you try to give them a great rate
The will be your customers
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:36
I have never bought ads from Google, so I don't know about that.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:36
Its easy to use. it has a very huge effect on your site
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:38
The token I am creating is intended to fund further development for this http://linkffiti.com/linkffiti
I also plan to compensation users/contributors for their efforts with the token to defray the membership fees.
compensation => compensate.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:40
Thats greate
Do you know what is the price of a new token you create?
For example if you creat your token what is th eprice? you should set ti price?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:41
Difficult question. It depends on how many coins will be in circulation.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:42
and the balance you have?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:43
Let's say a monthly membership is worth $10. So maybe 1 token is $10.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:43
For example If my balance is 1 eth and I the circulation of the coin was1 it mean each 1 of my token equals 1 eth?
So you should set the price?
Isn't it automatic?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:43
Automatic?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:44
Yes
there is a code in token page:

uint256 public sellPrice;
uint256 public buyPrice;

function setPrices(uint256 newSellPrice, uint256 newBuyPrice) onlyOwner {
sellPrice = newSellPrice;
buyPrice = newBuyPrice;
}

Its related to the sell and buy price
I guess
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:44
That's just if you want to peg your price to another asset.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:45
So what will happens if I use the code?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:46
The above code? You don't really have other assets to sell, do you?
If you had a few million Ethers, then maybe you could do that.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:47
got it
By the way
If one of your users by 10 token from you
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:48
Maybe if you first sold a lot of your own coins for ethers, then.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:48
I don't think I do that
If one of your users buy 10 tokes from you in his wallet he has 10 tokens that you have sold. In eth wallet it shows the price of all the balance in the wallet with usd
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:49
I did not understand the previous post. "if one of your users by 10 token from you" ?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:50
So what will happens to the tokens the user have?
Does the wallet understand each of your token is 10 dollar?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:51
If there is no active trading or exchange rate, how could it?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:51
So the wallet doesn't understand the balacne of the tokens
I mean the rate
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:52
A token represents a unit of service in my case. I am not trying to link it to a fiat currency like USD.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:52
But you can sell it and exchange it
so in this case it should have a rate
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:53
Ether can be quoted in USD because it is pretty liquid and there is an established exchange rate.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:54
So can we quote our token to eth? and then eth converts it to usd?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:54
Hopefully a market will develop for it, like it does for other tokens.
Yes, you sell your tokens for ether or bitcoin.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:54
I mean is there any way to make a rate for our currency until when user buy the token and have it in his wallet it show a price for it
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:55
You define what the rate is.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:56
for example I say each of my token is 1 dollar
so wallet shows 10 usd for a user that have 10 of my tokens
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:56
You set a fair rate so that people want to buy. There is no sense to set a high rate if you can't sell any of it.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:57
ok
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:57
Your user will have 10 of your tokens in his account.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 03:57
got it
So another question For example you creae your token. Can I buy it from my wallet automatically?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 03:59
I think you can use your wallet to send ether to my token's address and receive tokens in exchange.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:00
what do you mean?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 04:00
What do you mean automatically?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:00
Can I buy it automatically by paying a amount to receive that token in my wallet or I should pay you some amount and then you send me the token. I send bitcoin to my wallet and receive your token. Without contacting you to send me my token
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 04:02
The token contract would have a payable function that can receive either and pay in tokens. That is my understanding.
ether not either.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:02
ok
and another thing
Can I change the circulation fo my token any time I want?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 04:04
You can design your token to be able to mint more coins.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:04
with this code:function MyToken(uint256 initialSupply) {
balanceOf[msg.sender] = initialSupply;
}
?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 04:05
But again, if you try to produce a lot of coins, the value will fall.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:05
for example I create 100 token
I sell 100 token
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 04:05
Yes, you set the initial supply, but you don't have to put all of it into circulation.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:05
So I need more tokens for my customers
What should I do in this situation?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 04:06
Let's say the initial supply is 100 billion. Initially you sell only 1 billion. You can still mint
99 bllion.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:07
so lets say I sold the other 99 billion too
Now what should i do?
Can I add more?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 04:07
No.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:07
I should create a new token?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 04:08
You could try to create a new token with a larger supply, and coax your customers to swap the old coin for the new.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:09
So customers can swap the old token to the new token autmatically?
There is part in myetherewallet.com
Is it possible to do it there?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 04:09
It would be an agreement between you and them.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:10
Oh. got it
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 04:10
Just like you exchange your token for ether, you should be able to do the same.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:10
I should tell them send me all of your last tokens and receive the new token
right?
Ok
Got it
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 04:11
Something like that.
They will pay for the new coin with the old coin.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:12
got it
in etherscan.io
When I check a transaction
for example I send 10 tokens
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 04:12
I have to to sleep, after midnight.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:13
lol
Sorry
This is my last question
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 04:13
What's the question?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:13
For example I send 10 tokens to an address
it will be shown in etherscan.io witha TX ID
When I check it it will show I have send 10 tokens?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 04:14
yes.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:14
Does it show the name of the token?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 04:14
Name? what name?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:15
For example my token name is test
It shows I ahve sent 10 test to an address?
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 04:16
On etherscan I am not sure if they have transactions in coins other than ether. I didn't pay attention to that.
attention
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:17
OK.
Thank you so so so so much for your help tody
Sorry I took all of your time today
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 04:17
Sure. Bye.
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 04:17
Hope best for you ;)
Have a nice night ;) Bye
Prabhu Vinod
@PrabhuVinod
Aug 10 2017 11:57
Hi,
I am beginner and I deployed Greeter contract on testnet .
After deploying, in contract admin panel, why can I find only method kill() but not method "greet()"?
Prabhu Vinod
@PrabhuVinod
Aug 10 2017 12:37
@phalexo Hi Phalexo.. could you please help me? The differences between these two functions that I observed are:
  1. kill() is from parent contract and greet() is from its child(extended) contract.
  2. greet() has "constant" keyword and return some value, kill doesn't.
    So why can I execute "kill()" but not "greet()" from Ethereum wallet..?
    Thanks for the help, in advance.
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 12:47
1) If you killed your contract, don't expect anything t o work thereafter. 2) I think it is greeterInstance.greet.call().toLcoaleString() or something along those lines.
Prabhu Vinod
@PrabhuVinod
Aug 10 2017 12:52
I haven't killed it yet.
I just got to know that it is because of "constant" keyword.
If "constant" is specified, then it is not a transaction, but only a "call" to read data on local copy of blockchain.
Thanks for the reply.
Is it better to go through solidity docs first before trying examples on this site..? or should I care about solidity later and first complete this site?
Prabhu Vinod
@PrabhuVinod
Aug 10 2017 13:00
@pirapira Any advice for this nooby here..?
Thank you.
Yoichi Hirai
@pirapira
Aug 10 2017 13:01
what is an admin panel?
Prabhu Vinod
@PrabhuVinod
Aug 10 2017 13:04
I am referring to the interface in Ethereum Wallet where we can interact with our contract.
Prabhu Vinod
@PrabhuVinod
Aug 10 2017 13:10
oops.. this is before deploying the contract.. the "admin panel" i am referring is same page but after deploying.. no code and parameters.. only functions are visible there
Muhammad Sufiyan
@myselfsufiyan
Aug 10 2017 14:34

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ach
@llk23r
Aug 10 2017 16:04
I know the sender and reciever addr and the amount. I'm trying to figure out how to trigger a payment in solidity while a particular condition is met. Any help/pointers?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 16:50
Hi everybody
I'm syncing my mist with cmd for fast sync
When I open CMD and write the functions everything works great
After 5 minutes it gives me 7 warns
6 of them are : stalling state sync, droping peer
and the last one is :
node data write error faild with all peers <2peers, 2 tiers>
Then I should close it and open the cmd again until it works
What should I do?
megacrypto
@megacrypto
Aug 10 2017 16:56
Some times it just give 1 or 2 or 3 warn about stalling state sync, droping peer
but when it gives a warn like this
node data write error faild with all peers <2peers, 2 tiers>
I should reopen it
phalexo
@phalexo
Aug 10 2017 23:45
You have to use Ethereum clocks, @llk23r , to call a function, which would check your conditions and do whatever needs to be done. That said, it takes ether to use clock contracts. Maybe you should install the clock software on your node to defray the costs.