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matrixbot
@matrixbot
@bradyt:matrix.org 2. While doing exercises like these may not be the goal of Nix expression language, focusing on the language itself, before tackling the second topic of package management, may smooth the learning curve for some of us.
NobbZ Yeah, that is true.
NobbZ Also it was mostly a gut feeling I expressed here. I was able to surpress this feeling in hte main issue tracker, as I was not able to properly express my concerns.
matrixbot
@matrixbot
@bradyt:matrix.org And if anyone is somehow put in a situation where they have to be creative about getting Nix to do some IO, or simply things you might expect from a scripting language, it might be a worthwhile exercise anyways. It could lead to good debugging skills in Nix, I am just guessing.
@bradyt:matrix.org Like learning to use nix-instantiate --eval or --expr or whatever might be useful in the future for debugging.
@bradyt:matrix.org Not too sure though, I'm not even a newb yet in Nix.
Brady Trainor
@bradyt
Here's a question I have. Must I wait for a dev to bootstrap a Nix drafting repo?
I'd like to try to work on getting the Nix track started, without commiting, since I'm not sure how much progress I can make. Should I tentatively commit, but just be honest that I'm not sure how far I'll get?
Potentially I could learn as I go. When I took a look at the bootstrap process, I got the vague impression I would get stuck even making such a repo locally, without sufficient priveleges. As far as following the instructions linearly.
So I thought I would just follow the instructions as literally as possible, so I just filed that issue.
Brady Trainor
@bradyt
\s/priveleges/privileges/
matrixbot
@matrixbot
NobbZ The repo usually won't be created before you find someone who commits himself. And even then the language will be hidden for most user until it passes certain quality criterias, mainly it needs to have 10 exercises implemented at least, working CI on travis or GHA, documentation about how to install the languages runtime and how to run tests and how to contribute to the track. Thats it for v2 currently, for v3 some more things have to work…

@bradyt:matrix.org I really don't know when I will have time to look at this more, it just keeps popping up in my head when I have a little bit of time to take another look at Nix.

But one thing I toyed around with, was maybe looking at a similar existing bootstrapped language, and modiying it as a way to guide my own learning of Nix.

@bradyt:matrix.org So like, looking at existing early commits on another language track.
matrixbot
@matrixbot
@bradyt:matrix.org www.workfromhomewebseries.com
Logan Stucki
@Smarticles101
Man i forgot this existed
Ryan Potts
@rpottsoh
Still here
Peter Tseng
@petertseng
advent of code coming up in 10 days
Norbert Melzer
@NobbZ
Yes, its that time again. Though this year I already know in advance, that I can't put much time into it :(
Victor Goff
@kotp
Test message
Ryan Potts
@rpottsoh
Reply message. 👍
kotp
@kotp:matrix.org
[m]
Thanks Ryan.
Norbert Melzer
@NobbZ
Has matrix integration getting better after the take over?
kotp
@kotp:matrix.org
[m]
I don't know, but thought I would explore a little.
Norbert Melzer
@NobbZ
Edits and threads have been my biggest pain points back then…
Threads haven't been translated to matrix at all, while edits have been send as new messages. (add some parenthesis for the edit)
kotp
@kotp:matrix.org
[m]
I can edit my message from here. (By doing up-arrow)
Victor Goff
@kotp
That seemed pretty OK. So edits seem to be better.
Norbert Melzer
@NobbZ
Yeah, but how did my edit appear on your site?
5 replies
Okay.
Then I might give it a shot again
kotp
@kotp:matrix.org
[m]
I even deleted information on my edit.
Try a thread here.
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Victor Goff
@kotp
Sorry for the noise on Dev.