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27th
Jan 2016
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 17:32
hello!
since this is the first time we’ve done it in a while, i’m not entirely sure how we want to go about this (or what we want to accomplish). perhaps we can start figuring that out.
for my part, work on POSM continues apace. i’m working on stripping out the S3 dependencies so that it will (also) work with a local filesystem.
i’ve also been briefing a couple other devs here @ stamen so we can make some headway on the POSM-tagged issues: https://github.com/fieldpapers/fieldpapers/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3APOSM
our immediate deadline is 2/12, with a focus on integrated offline functionality, so once we’re through that, we’ll be able to start working on some more refinement and finally re-open the print layout / snapshot processing can of worms.
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 17:39
hi @mojodna great. Was thinking an agenda might be helpful. Here's a google doc everyone should be able to edit: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RRgsKlmjDznpzNhBDSlkzc7uqWCQDRpCrBuBChgwyyI/edit?usp=sharing
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 17:39
@wonderchook perfecto!
has anyone ever just tried to hold a meeting in a google doc?
the minutes write themselves!
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 17:43
Hi @mojodna, hi @wonderchook -- Lindsey should be along a little later. From our perspective, we're aiming for a PR this week for the "big map" atlas composer. And we're thinking about doing map rotation after that...
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 17:43
tempting with the google doc @mojodna but perhaps a little confusing for those that miss the link or are randomly in the channel
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 17:43
But we're interested in hearing what everyone else is doing so we can fit in around that. (I think Seth said the ARC folks were interested in map rotation too?)
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 17:44
yay! @linzjax that’s a single-page reenvisioning of the current wizard-based workflow, right?
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 17:44
That's right.
No more wizardiness.
Lindsey Jacks
@linzjax
Jan 27 2016 17:44
Less wizard, more accordion
(hello all)
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 17:44
hi! :cow: :bell:
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 17:45
I am disappointed to see that other users get anonymous animals on Google Docs, instead of their names. I want to be Anonymous Aardvark.
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 17:45
you could sign out of google if it is that important to you or open it incognito :squirrel:
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 17:45
yes, ARC is interested in rotation. the printing/snapshot pipeline will need to be adapted to support it, but that doesn’t mean that we can’t start making the UI support it
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 17:46
But I wouldn't be able to choose my animal, would I? I might end up being Anonymous Dung Beetle or something equally unedifying.
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 17:46
yes the freedom of being an anonymous create does come at a price
@mojodna rotation so north isn't always up?
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 17:46
@wonderchook right
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 17:47
I'm kind of itching to rewrite the printing/snapshot pipeline, but it doesn't really fit into our plans right now. I'd really like to do something to allow photomosaicking of snapshots of large digital images (using satellite or drone imagery).
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 17:47
so that it aligns with non-N/S, E/W grids or with marker streets that aren’t linear
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 17:47
@ian-ross: we should talk about if it at all fits into some of the things we need to do with documents for Cadasta.
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 17:48
@wonderchook: I got thinking about it when Noel was talking about the large drone images people have been using for community mapping, and how cool it would be to produce those in Field Papers, run them off on a plotter, then be able to mark them up and just scan over them with a mobile phone camera to produce a single composited map layer. That would be a lot of fun, but also probably quite a lot of work and quite difficult (the image analysis alone would be quite hard to do with large images like that, plus you'd probably need some sort of mobile app like the panorama mode in the Android camera to scan over the map image). Now, that might be a good GSoC project!
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 17:50
btw I think we got ahead of ourselves. I know @clash99 was planning on joining as well
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 17:51
Have we started? I thoought this was just pre-meeting kibitzing!
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 17:51
we haven't started
I more wanted to make sure we hadn't started :)
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 17:51
I hadn't started. I don't know about everyone else...
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 17:57
i thought we were done.
;-)
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 17:59
Are we expecting anyone else to join? ARC peeps? Others from Stamen? We just have Chandra to join from our side now.
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 17:59
@ian-ross photomosaicking feels like an external process, but could be facilitated by changes
no one at stamen today; @saraedean is out and @sconnelley and @ericsoco are busy elsewhere
i let the WB and ARC folks know this is happening
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:00
yeah, I figured key would be regular meetings which might start kinda light. At least with OpenAerialMap that is what happened
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:00
Don't you think it would be cute to be able to select "Paper size: ENORMOUS!!!" and run off a big map on a plotter, then just walk over the top of it with your phone to capture the whole thing? That sounds like some 21st century stuff.
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:01
I think that would be awesome
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:01
hell yeah
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:01
though I think if we did suggest that for GSoC you would have to mentor though @ian-ross
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:01
I thought you might say that.
I'm enjoying the mentoring (though that might just be because @linzjax is an awesome intern!), but someone else should have a go too.
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:02
if I mentored the instructions would be along the lines of "make the magic happen"
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:02
if i mentored the instructions would be along the lines of “"
seriously though, i’d love to help make that happen, but am generally too busy to really be able to help
Lindsey Jacks
@linzjax
Jan 27 2016 18:03
:information_desk_person:
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:03
i was poking around some iOS scanning apps the other day, it looks like panorama-style scanning is totally a thing
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:04
No surprise. It's been a thing in other applications (I'm thinking internal pipeline inspection?) for a long time, so it's no surprise it's coming into mobile devices. They have the juice for it now.
Should we start anyway? I just pinged Chandra on Slack to remind her.
Oh, maybe she's here. Are you here, Chandra? Say something!
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:06
yeah, I think we can start
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:07
Chandra's in the Google doc, so she must be here. Keeping vewy vewy quiet.
Chandra Lash
@clash99
Jan 27 2016 18:07
Hello everyone!
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:07
@clash99 hi!
Chandra Lash
@clash99
Jan 27 2016 18:07
just catching up on the meeting reading!
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:07
Hi Chandra!
Chandra Lash
@clash99
Jan 27 2016 18:07
wow - lots of activity already...
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:07
we got a little too excited!
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:10
OK, where shall we start? We were all talking more before we started...
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:11
referring to the agenda, we know who’s here now (Cadasta represent)
What’s everyone working on?
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:12
@linzjax: You tell him!
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:12
for my part, work on POSM with the Red Cross (https://github.com/americanredcross/posm) continues apace. i’m working on stripping out the S3 dependencies so that it will (also) work with a local filesystem.
i’ve also been briefing a couple other devs here @ stamen so we can make some headway on the POSM-tagged issues: https://github.com/fieldpapers/fieldpapers/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3APOSM
our immediate deadline is 2/12, with a focus on integrated offline functionality, so once we’re through that, we’ll be able to start working on some more refinement and finally re-open the print layout / snapshot processing can of worms.
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:13
So is the idea of POSM to be completely self-contained? Is there some functionality for uploading data after coming back from the field to fieldpapers.org or some other server?
Lindsey Jacks
@linzjax
Jan 27 2016 18:14
Ok! So I've been working on breaking apart the wizardiness of the old ui and putting it all onto one a single page with a full-screen map and smaller side menu. All of the steps are now broken into accordion sections ("Atlas Title""Grid Layout" and "Add-ons"), and I'm in the process of adding in tooltips for the less self-explanatory parts.
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:14
at the moment, completely self-contained
@linzjax nice!
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:15
And I've been helping Lindsey, doing some of the backend changes to make it work. (Though we did quite a bit of that together, trans-Atlantic pair programming in Cloud9!)
Lindsey Jacks
@linzjax
Jan 27 2016 18:16
I actually had a question: do you know the ration of mobile/table/desktop for the average user?
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:16
Lindsey's also been thinking quite a bit about the interaction model for the page composer grid, and I think we're getting closer to a solution with that. Funnily enough, thinking about adding atlas rotation makes some of that a bit clearer.
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:16
@linzjax no, but i’ll see if i can add you to google analytics so you can take a look
Lindsey Jacks
@linzjax
Jan 27 2016 18:17
Awesome, thank you
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:17
@mojodna Do you even know of anyone using mobile devices for atlas composition? It feels more like a desktop activity to me, but I don't know.
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:17
anecdotally, no
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:17
Do you think it's ever likely to be a thing? How were you planning to do that stuff in POSM?
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:19
I think it doesn't occur to most people they can print from their phone
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:19
Heh. I hadn't thought about that aspect of it!
@mojodna Do you have a feeling for how much time ARC (and other POSMites) will have to put into FP?
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:20
for POSM, i’m anticipating that it will be entirely driven by laptops
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:20
ARC mostly pays others to put time into it.
meaning they would have ideas and input certainly, but not necessarily be adding code
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:21
@linzjax added you to GA
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:21
okay so I think we know what everyone is up to
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:21
So, for the moment, maybe we can not worry too much about tablet/phone interaction? I know that Lindsey spent a bit of time getting touch working on the page composer, but if we can do without that for now, that would be good.
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:22
ARC is paying Stamen + SpatialDev to make improvements to Field Papers and OpenMapKit
the Field Papers issues that are of specific interest to ARC are here: https://github.com/fieldpapers/fieldpapers/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3APOSM
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:22
I would say the only time phones are really used is to take and upload scans
so the upload page should be mobile friendly but creating an atlas isn't probably too important
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:22
(plus the necessary changes to make it work offline)
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:22
Right. That makes sense.
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:23
i’m ramping @sconnelley and @ericsoco up, so it’ll be the 3 of us (plus some of @jflemer-ndp) working on things. there’s some follow-on related to atlas layout that i’m using to force us into revisiting that
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:23
Some of those issues are partially covered by things that we've been doing. There's this API PR I have floating around. And the work that Lindsey is doing will cover some of the UI issues.
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:23
tl;dr relatively substantial time, ideally starting a couple weeks ago, but more realistically starting around now
@ian-ross yup, that’s part of my briefing to them
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:24
If any of them are familiar with OAuth, maybe they could to the authentication side of the API, since I'd be starting more or less from zero doing that, so wouldn't be too efficient.
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:24
is there a way to track what is getting done when? Are you sprinting or something?
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:25
@ian-ross i’ll pencil myself in for that
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:25
@mojodna Good-oh.
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:25
yeah that will be super helpful for us
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:26
@wonderchook not yet, but we’re getting there. they’re also working on some other projects, so i don’t know the answer to that yet
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:26
okay, we aren't in a big hurry just useful to our road map to have a general idea of what is coming when
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:27
Looking at the POSM issue list, I can see that there are definitely some tasks that would be useful for us but not for POSM (essentially: everything needed to use Field Papers as a "plugin" for another site), and quite a few things that are of interest to POSM but not to us. We just need to sort out a division of labour on the overlaps.
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:27
yup, for sure
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:27
@ian-ross are all our needs as tickets in the main field papers issues repo?
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:28
@ian-ross can you weigh in on the POSM-tagged issues if they’re things you’re thinking about? that will be helpful for sean and eric
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:29
@wonderchook Not really. I don't think anyone has seriously pushed making FP into a pluggable thing before -- most people use it from fieldpapers.org.
@mojodna Will do.
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:30
thinking we should put things up there so that others at least are aware of what we plan on doing
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:30
yes
shall we start a roadmap entry on the wiki and commit to keeping it up-to-date?
(that’ll force me to be a bit more organized about when/how stuff is going to happen)
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:31
@wonderchook Agreed. I've been meaning to do that, but have been holding off on it because I only have a quite vague feeling about how to word it.
@mojodna Sounds good!
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:31
@ian-ross if it helps to talk through it I'm available
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:31
Oh, and the API stuff I did was a first step on the way to "pluggability" and seemed like the simplest way to get started, since it was clearly something other people wanted too.
@wonderchook OK, let me look through the POSM issues and then maybe we could talk about how FP-in-Cadasta ought to look so we can break down how to express what's needed as issues.
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:33
@linzjax @clash99 are there mocks already up somewhere?
@ian-ross I'll review the POSM issues as well so I at least know what is there
Lindsey Jacks
@linzjax
Jan 27 2016 18:34
Beat me to it
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:34
Two screens, thumb mouse, lots of coffee! ;-)
Lindsey Jacks
@linzjax
Jan 27 2016 18:35
Those are some of the initial mocks that I did. Things have changed a bit since then, and I wouldn't mind doing a few more mocks to make sure the direction I'm going makes the most sense (or if there's a way to improve it in the future)
Chandra Lash
@clash99
Jan 27 2016 18:35
We've had some more conversations regarding better placement of controls in the single-screen format.
so ya, we should probably finalize those and post publicly for feedback
Lindsey Jacks
@linzjax
Jan 27 2016 18:36
A wordy breakdown of some of the ui improvements possible: https://github.com/Cadasta/fieldpapers/wiki/Outreachy-UI-experiments
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:37
The really difficult part of the UI design is really the interaction with the page composer grid, and how that interacts with the map scale and other controls. Lindsey has done quite a few experiments with that, and once we've produced a PR for the "big map" stuff, it will be easier to play with those. (The "big map" changes are a big enough UI change that it's probably a good idea to let people play with it a bit and for the dust to settle before messing around with the page composer grid even more...)
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:38
yeah, so one of the questions was what is a good way to make decisions on things like that. Post the mocks, ask for feedback and then say "okay we are happy" and go forward? (probably set deadlines for feedback as well)
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:40
It's actually pretty hard, because some of these things (the composer grid) are really interactive, and mocks don't give you a feeling for what's going on. One option is to make a build of Field Papers with some controls to choose between different grid behaviours (Lindsey has some terminology for the different behaviours that's quite nice) and deploy that to AWS for people to play with. (Since I wrote all the AWS deployment stuff, we might as well use it for something!)
If we did that, there are probably enough interested parties who would have a play and offer an opinion.
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:40
closer we can get to something for people to actually click on the better
Chandra Lash
@clash99
Jan 27 2016 18:41
I think some of the UI recommendations are merely grouping of the controls to be more intuitive (like putting the include notes checkbox next to the notes field)
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:41
so offering different groupings wouldn't be too difficult
Chandra Lash
@clash99
Jan 27 2016 18:41
I think it'll be a clearer pic once we can post some mocks...
So another can of worms... any addition of tooltip or basic intro text would help ui. Thoughts on that? Can we propose something and post for feedback?
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:42
ah of the grouping? so if I understand there are 3 changes. 1. no more wizard 2. different grouping 3. some different controls?
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:43
@clash99 Have you looked at the different interaction models for the page composer grid that Lindsey has been experimenting with at all?
Lindsey Jacks
@linzjax
Jan 27 2016 18:43
I think separating concerns would also help people give good feedback. Mocks for menu ui and groups, and AWS for grid interaction.
Chandra Lash
@clash99
Jan 27 2016 18:43
yep, agree
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:43
I agree with that: the UI control placement is definitely something that can be explored with mocks. The grid interaction, not so much.
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:43
I haven't seen the different interaction models where is that?
Lindsey Jacks
@linzjax
Jan 27 2016 18:44
it's also on the ui-experiments branch of cadasta's fp-web
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:44
Lindsey deprecated it by calling it "wordy", but it needs words!
Introducing atlas rotation into the mix adds some interesting extra wrinkles, but I think we have a relatively good idea of how to deal with it, now that Leaflet supports smooth map zooming.
@mojodna Incidentally, are you OK with switching to Leaflet 1.0 beta? Soon to be Leaflet 1.0 For Real, hopefully?
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:45
thoughts on soliciting feedback on new interface through the old interface? Meaning something like "We are changing the interface for Field Papers please take this survey" or something? It has a lot of users but there isn't a great way to reach them
I get the feeling some probably have very strong opinions about the interface suddenly changing
Chandra Lash
@clash99
Jan 27 2016 18:47
some always do :)
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:48
yes that will happen, I more mean we have a resource of lots of users we should find a way to reach out to them if practical
Chandra Lash
@clash99
Jan 27 2016 18:48
I'm sure there are others with ideas on the interface too... is there a way to reach them to be part of this conversation?
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:50
well, I'm wondering if a survey makes more sense. To funnel people in or some other focused feedback process
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:50
How about this: we'll make a PR for the big map stuff with an interim layout of the UI components; Chandra and Lindsey can make some mocks of alternative layouts; Lindsey and me will put together a grid interaction playground that I can deploy to AWS; we can then solicit input from people, probably by Seth putting a little blurb on the front page of fieldpapers.org.
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:50
posting to some of the OpenStreetMap mailing lists would be one way
@ian-ross I think that is a good set of steps
Chandra Lash
@clash99
Jan 27 2016 18:50
sounds good to me too
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:51
okay, so I'm thinking we might be done here btw
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:51
That's a good idea: if we have a link from the front page of fieldpapers.org to the mocks, the interaction playground and maybe a survey where people can offer their opinion, that sounds like an optimal solution.
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:51
at least we steps to do until the next meeting
@linzjax sounds good putting together a survey as part of the feedback process?
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:51
Sounds good to me. Just adding final actions to the agenda now...
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:51
I can help with putting it out to the couple mailing lists that make sense as well
Lindsey Jacks
@linzjax
Jan 27 2016 18:52
Absolutely. I'd love to hear what actual users think
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:52
one thing (not to complicate things) is offer that people can translate the survey if they want but then they need to translate the offers too
I suspect we'll get it in at least French
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:53
I can do French, Oliver can do German if that's necessary.
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:53
oh yeah I forgot!
I could probably rope Chris into do Spanish
doing Spanish
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:53
Lindsey can look at the GA data and see where users come from. I was just going to say Chris for Spanish!
Lindsey Jacks
@linzjax
Jan 27 2016 18:54
Sure thing!
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:54
so...talk here again in 2 weeks?
Chandra Lash
@clash99
Jan 27 2016 18:54
good for me
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:54
@mojodna You happy with all that? We've not signed you up for doing much...
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 18:55
(you volunteered me for everything, right? i’m behind on scrollback, back momentarily)
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:55
Just look in the agenda document. There's an actions list. And now I feel like a civil servant.
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:55
I'm going to email Tyler from HOT and let him know about these meetings as well
civil servant of open source :)
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:56
"Civil" is not a word that would normally be applied to me.
Lindsey Jacks
@linzjax
Jan 27 2016 18:59
Anyone speak Japanese or Indonesian? Outside of german, french and spanish those are the other two highest
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 18:59
I used to speak Japanese. Not good enough for anything any more though. Kate speaks Bahasa.
Or Bahasa Indonesia, is it called?
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 18:59
There is a Japanese OSM guy Satoshi Iiya who usually will translate most things
technically Bahasa just means language so really Indonesian is the right thing is English but people say both
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 19:00
Or there's Eugene, starting in March.
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 19:00
@linzjax I can also ask the HOT Indonesia folks to help. I can read Indonesian but I'd be pretty terrible
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 19:00
D'oh. He's from the Philippines, not Indonesia. Ignore me...
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 19:00
Eugene speaks Filipino you mean
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 19:00
Indeed.
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 19:01
@ian-ross Leaflet 1.0 :+1:
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 19:01
though there a 1500 borrowed words (things that you lean when reading wikipedia while in Manila)
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 19:01
@ian-ross @linzjax: PR w/ screenshots of the UI would be great, as our designers can weigh in and help
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 19:01
@linzjax as long as we have instructions on how to translate we can then when we post asking for people to take the survey we can also see if others volunteer to translate
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 19:02
(i.e. higher fidelity than the current mocks, even backed by working code)
Lindsey Jacks
@linzjax
Jan 27 2016 19:02
@mojodna sure thing
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 19:02
@mojodna We'll prepare screenshots to go with the PR. And we'll set up a live demo site with the PR code on it.
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 19:03
survey :+1:
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 19:03
Actually, that ought to be something you can get as a GitHub plugin for web app development -- live interaction with PRs.
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 19:03
(can of worms, but hey)
i think Heroku does something like that
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 19:03
Open the can, Seth! Open the can!
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 19:03
yeah yeah
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 19:03
What could possibly go wrong?
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 19:03
user feedback is good until it’s not
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 19:04
Software development would be so much more enjoyable without those pesky users, eh?
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 19:04
survey translation reminded me: who from Cadasta should i add to Transifex (so you can post strings for translation, etc.)?
well, pesky users + ∞ time = ok
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 19:05
Hmmm. Transifex: probably me.
Anyway, if you're happy with everything, I think we are done here now! Thanks, everyone!
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 19:07
:pounds gavel:
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 19:07
yay! talk to you in a 2 weeks, if not before!
Kate Chapman
@wonderchook
Jan 27 2016 19:07
oops that didn't work at all /:pounds gavel/:
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 19:07
Oh yeah, we'll be in touch!
Seth Fitzsimmons
@mojodna
Jan 27 2016 19:08
@ian-ross added you as a Transifex maintainer
Ian Ross
@ian-ross
Jan 27 2016 19:08
Thanks!