These are chat archives for fiji/fiji

29th
Jun 2016
Jan Eglinger
@imagejan
Jun 29 2016 14:37
@tinevez is there a specific paper to be cited when using TrackMate in Fiji?
Curtis Rueden
@ctrueden
Jun 29 2016 14:45
@imagejan It is still pending submission, unfortunately.
Kyle I S Harrington
@kephale
Jun 29 2016 14:45
biorxiv!
Curtis Rueden
@ctrueden
Jun 29 2016 14:47
OK @kephale, I am a noob when it comes to all this online archive stuff. Is there a process you would recommend following when submitting papers? E.g.: a colleague recently told me that they had to submit a manuscript to the online open-access thingie before the journal published that manuscript, in order to avoid legal issues.
I ask because we are actively submitting several papers right now, and I do not want to miss any opportunities along these lines.
We have DOIs for software now too. It is all super confusing, to someone like me who is too lazy/busy to read about it.
Kyle I S Harrington
@kephale
Jun 29 2016 14:48
yeah, and some folks have been posting their figures onto figshare in order to avoid having to request access to use their own figures from whatever venue the paper ultimately gets published in
Curtis Rueden
@ctrueden
Jun 29 2016 14:49
OMG, so ridiculous.
Kyle I S Harrington
@kephale
Jun 29 2016 14:50
i have yet to talk to anyone who regrets posting to biorxiv and arxiv before submission
Ulrik Günther
@skalarproduktraum
Jun 29 2016 14:50
@ctrueden: we had actually tried to get the clearvolume paper on biorxiv after publishing, they denied it though — as you correctly mentioned, as they want to avoid legal issues
you should definetely put the pre-review version there, it’s such an asset
we also got a little flak on google+ for trying to be open but then publishing in nmeth...
Curtis Rueden
@ctrueden
Jun 29 2016 14:54
@kephale So your recommended process would be to post all submissions to biorxiv and arxiv and figshare for the figures, prior to submission to a journal? Is that against the submission guidelines of any journals though?
Kyle I S Harrington
@kephale
Jun 29 2016 14:56
i would recommend it, and let me see, there is a list out there of which journals are OK with it
Hadrien Mary
@hadim
Jun 29 2016 14:56
It depends the journal but more and more of them are now accepting prior submission to arxiv/biorxiv (Journal of Cell Biology recently for example). You should ask to the editor of the journal you want to work with.
Kyle I S Harrington
@kephale
Jun 29 2016 14:57
yeah @skalarproduktraum 's link
Ulrik Günther
@skalarproduktraum
Jun 29 2016 14:57
this list is quite useful
Kyle I S Harrington
@kephale
Jun 29 2016 14:57
that tells you if you need to ask the editors or can do it without asking or if they're jerks
Hadrien Mary
@hadim
Jun 29 2016 14:57
Nice !
Kyle I S Harrington
@kephale
Jun 29 2016 14:58
but it isnt unusual for folks who post on *xiv to even get solicited by journals, so it can really make your life easier too
Hadrien Mary
@hadim
Jun 29 2016 14:58
I have also heard stories from people getting contacted by editor within hours after posting to rxiv
:-)
Curtis Rueden
@ctrueden
Jun 29 2016 15:15
@skalarproduktraum That is SUPER useful, thanks!
Too bad; none of the journals we are using are on that list. I guess I'll have to scrutinize the submission guidelines.
Oh, I guess this list of publishers covers a lot, actually.
Kyle I S Harrington
@kephale
Jun 29 2016 15:20
even when looking by publisher? (i.e. BMC is fine)
Curtis Rueden
@ctrueden
Jun 29 2016 15:20
@kephale Yep, I just figured that out. Thank you!