And by no means am I suggesting Discord as a serious alternative.
I happen to use Discord for most of my "work" arrangements these days, as well as a lot of play channels. It's very nice to have a platform that's made to go beyond just text. Screen-sharing is a wonderful thing for pair-programming and, given that I have not been in an office in about 8 years, not a bad meeting spot either! :)
I really hope that Matrix / Element move closer to this model; They've been making strives but it's shocking how many opensource communities have moved near all-in on Discord. I remember when the Mozilla IRC server got shutdown and there was debate for months on where Rust would go and it ended up being Discord. Can't blame them, the actual platform is pretty solid but it's weird given the espoused views of Mozilla. lol
And, just to advocate a certain daemon here ... We are not a large community and should not be spread out in multiple chat rooms for support. At the same time, if we do choose something else besides gitter, and Matrix and/or Bitlbee is not enough to attract IRC users to our development and support channels, that is, in and of itself, a good reason to choose a non-irc platform ;)
I do somewhat miss IRC and usenet, but I also somewhat miss dial-up and BBS'ing yet do not advocate that we move (AKA digress) to anything related to them. I am totally upset that there are many many may different chat/voice/video apps and platforms these days, and the Anarchist in me is somewhat perturbed by the dominance of entities in the 1% wreaking havok on our very ability to communicate and forcing us to spread out, BUT, none of that applies to Gerbil in the least. :P
but it eventually became apparent that we need a persistent discourse channel
so we set up gitter
and slowly migrated off irc
sad to hear that freenode is dying
I think Gitter is fine; It's backend moving to Matrix has me a lot more hopeful about it existing in the long-term
jsgrant @jsgrant also forces himself to go to bed ... nearly 2:30am here and need to be up at 7. o/
Looks like some recent Gambit change may have broken Gerbil:
>>> compiling gerbil core
*** WARNING -- Variable "macro-readtable-brace-keyword-set!" used in module "gx-gambc1" is undefined
*** WARNING -- Variable "macro-readtable-bracket-keyword-set!" used in module "gx-gambc1" is undefined
build.sh: line 107: 12092 Segmentation fault (core dumped) "${GERBIL_STAGE0}/bin/gxi" "${GERBIL_BUILD}/build1.ss"
I see a
macro-readtable-bracket-handler-set! and a macro-readtable-brace-handler-set! but no macro-readtable-brace-keyword-set!, etc.
I also see
commit 589da61f7c1e6342fc220260a02a547bc942a792
Author: Marc Feeley <feeley@iro.umontreal.ca>
Date: Wed Jun 16 14:25:25 2021 -0400
Read the form [1 2 3] as (|[...]| 1 2 3) and the form {1 2 3} as (|{...}| 1 2 3)
you need a macro to handle
|{...}| and |[...]|
that's in
gx-gambc1.scm?
topic it here or so
How do we communicate that?
open up the latest gambit and do:
> (define-macro (|[...]| . rest) `(list ,@rest))
> (define l [1 2 3])
> l
(1 2 3)
> (list? l)
#t
@belmarca anyway to topic that commit?
@vyzo I can't follow https://github.com/vyzo/gerbil/blob/master/doc/guide/bootstrap.md, getting errors
*** ERROR IN gx#stx-map1 -- Syntax Error
*** ERROR IN "../../../Documents/Programmation/gerbil/bin/gxc"@63.5
--- Syntax Error: Bad syntax; illegal pattern
... form: (match rest
([arg . rest]
(case arg
(("-h" "-help" "--help") (print-usage!) (exit 0))
(("-d")
(match rest
([dir . rest] (set! outdir dir) (lp rest))
(else (print-usage!) (exit 1))))
(("-S") (set! invoke-gsc #f) (lp rest))
(("-s") (set! keep-scm #t) (lp rest))
(("-static") (set! static #t) (lp rest))
(("-g") (set! keep-scm #t) (set! debug #t) (lp rest))
(("-genv") (set! debug 'env) (lp rest))
(("-genv/phi") (set! debug 'env/phi) (lp rest))
(("-gsrc") (set! debug 'src) (lp rest))
(("-gsrc/phi") (set! debug 'src/phi) (lp rest))
(("-v") (set! verbose #t) (lp rest))
(("-O") (set! optimize #t) (lp rest))
(("-no-ssxi") (set! generate-ssxi #f) (lp rest))
(("-exe") (set! compile-exe #t) (lp rest))
(("-o")
(match rest
([file . rest] (set! outfile file) (lp rest))))
(("-include-gambit-sharp")
(add-gsc-option!
(if (gerbil-runtime-smp?)
'("-e"
"(define-cond-expand-feature|enable-smp|)"
"-e"
"(include \"~~lib/_gambit#.scm\")")
'("-e" "(include \"~~lib/_gambit#.scm\")")))
(lp rest))
(("-prelude")
(match rest
([opt . rest]
(add-gsc-option! ["-prelude" opt])
(lp rest))
(else (print-usage!) (exit 1))))
(("-cc-options")
(match rest
([opt . rest]
(add-gsc-option! ["-cc-options" opt])
(lp rest))
(else (print-usage!) (exit 1))))
(("-ld-options")
(match rest
([opt . rest]
(add-gsc-option! ["-ld-options" opt])
(lp rest))
(else (print-usage!) (exit 1))))
(("-gsc-flag")
(match rest
([opt . rest] (add-gsc-option! [opt]) (lp rest))
(else (print-usage!) (exit 1))))
(("-gsc-option")
(match rest
([opt arg . rest]
(add-gsc-option! [opt arg])
(lp rest))
(else (print-usage!) (exit 1))))
(else
(if (and (not (string-empty? arg))
(eq? (string-ref arg 0) #\-))
(error "Unexpected option" arg)
(values compile-exe (make-opts) (cons arg rest))))))
(else (values compile-exe (make-opts) rest)))
... detail: [arg . rest] at "../../../Documents/Programmation/gerbil/bin/gxc"@64.8
... detail: [arg . rest] at "../../../Documents/Programmation/gerbil/bin/gxc"@64.8
I'll rebuild gambit@c0753ff127baefebd00193a135f48f18c59c496a and build a fresh gerbil to make sure my env is not polluted
The error comes from
parse-error, an internal procedure to parse-match-pattern which is called by generate-match*. After some poking around I can see that it's dropping right through parse1 as defined in parse-match-pattern, so it's not even recognized--- Syntax Error: Bad syntax; illegal pattern
... form: (match* (rest1 rest2)
(([x1 . rest1] [x2 . rest2]) (f x1 x2) (lp rest1 rest2))
(else (void)))
... detail: [x1 . rest1] at "srfi/1.ss"@100.9
... detail: [x1 . rest1] at "srfi/1.ss"@100.9