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    Cory Parent
    @goedelsoup
    yeah, weave is "multi-tenancy for prom". thanos is a bit more interesting and virtualizes the metrics store to provide transparent access to hot/cold metrics alike. https://github.com/thanos-io/thanos
    Adelbert Chang
    @adelbertc
    a marvel-themed project name? sold.
    Christopher Davenport
    @ChristopherDavenport
    You all using epimetheus to expose Prometheus metrics?
    Adelbert Chang
    @adelbertc
    heh nah, just the simple java client
    i dont think epimetheus existed when Nelson was created ;)
    Timothy Perrett
    @timperrett
    right we predate all that
    Matt Explosion
    @aldiyen
    hey sorry to trouble you guys, but is anyone ever going to merge and release getnelson/helm#7 I’m still running a home grown version in my prod environment
    Timothy Perrett
    @timperrett
    oh yes, we can absolutely do that
    it will be version 6.0.0 as its an incompatible dependency change
    @aldiyen its running on release CI now - will post here when its done
    Timothy Perrett
    @timperrett
    @aldiyen 6.0.13 is released!
    Matt Explosion
    @aldiyen
    awesome, thanks @timperrett !
    Adelbert Chang
    @adelbertc
    is there a way to change thhe logging level dynamically and/or by restarting the service?
    Cory Parent
    @goedelsoup
    you should be able to pass root.level via a properties file based on how the logback config is assembled
    Adelbert Chang
    @adelbertc
    java logging will be the end of me
    Cory Parent
    @goedelsoup
    Adelbert Chang
    @adelbertc
    thats what i ended up doing
    Timothy Perrett
    @timperrett
    lol
    Matt Explosion
    @aldiyen
    java logging is an exciting world of configuration files
    Adelbert Chang
    @adelbertc
    @timperrett @goedelsoup have either of you observed the Nelson Deployment Monitor thread periodically dying
    Cory Parent
    @goedelsoup
    i'm still not deployed :cry: still working on getting all of our artifact tags right
    Adelbert Chang
    @adelbertc
    D:
    Cory Parent
    @goedelsoup
    i literally wrote a baby nelson this week. it feels like the last stepping stone though.
    gets everything on nomad (templating via levant) and then we just need to start versioning like adults.
    Matt Explosion
    @aldiyen
    just noticed that someone opened a PR to the Verizon/helm repo back in May. would you folks be open to me reaching out to Verizon to try to get ownership of the repo transferred to the getnelson github organization reduce confusion? looks like the existing fork would need to be renamed in order for the transfer to be accepted, so probably some annoyance there…
    Christopher Davenport
    @ChristopherDavenport
    There are people still at Verizon?
    Matt Explosion
    @aldiyen
    oh god, are there not?
    that’s even more horrifying
    Cory Parent
    @goedelsoup
    not to my knowledge. i have been making PRs and having conversations to try to get references shifted over.
    i don't even know if we are able to get a reference link into the READMEs at this point though. tim might be the best pathway since i think he negotiated the open-sourcing.
    btw, thank you @aldiyen for pushing that. i was doing the same and was very lazy about it.
    Matt Explosion
    @aldiyen
    i sent an email
    i sent an email to code@verizon.com asking about transferring the repo ownership. got an email back from someone named Dave Andrews saying he’d bring it up internally
    Timothy Perrett
    @timperrett
    oh i know Dave
    @aldiyen im ex-verizon, as are most of the folks who built nelson
    @aldiyen to answer your question from yesterday (sorry i didnt see this until now) i dont think there are folks working on that project now at verizon, hence the fork :)
    Matt Explosion
    @aldiyen
    yeah you were all at verizon when I first started using helm
    I remember
    I assume all those repos are just abandoned now that your team dissolved. I don’t use anything except helm though, so I have no idea whether or not people are using the others :wink:
    Cory Parent
    @goedelsoup
    did anyone ever fork quiver? that's definitely a solid lib.
    ah, getnelson did :smile:
    Matt Explosion
    @aldiyen
    maybe if they agree to transfer ownership of the repo (or even just put a darn note in the README) we can get them to transfer whatever else you’re still using under the getnelson org ¯_(ツ)_/¯
    wow that did not render properly
    also the gitter ios app is trash
    Timothy Perrett
    @timperrett
    i doubt they will transfer
    thats why we just made a fork
    Christopher Davenport
    @ChristopherDavenport
    I heard that Nelson may have some github specific code somewhere, wanted to see where that was as I like to check out prior art for the library I’m building.
    Adelbert Chang
    @adelbertc
    @ChristopherDavenport i tweeted it at you
    @timperrett whos invention is NelsonFK
    Timothy Perrett
    @timperrett
    oh yes, i think that was me @adelbertc