Might be worth investigating
Only two of the four devices done, but there's the flavor.
Checking my flows against the existing flows chart. The chart has the route through media-new, which I don't have. media-new leads to the attachment editor, which I have as accessible through edit more details in the grid view attachment details modal. It's also accessible through the media lib list view, which I wished used the attachment details modal.
Featured plugin chat in 1.5-ish hours. https://make.wordpress.org/core/2014/09/16/feature-plugin-chat-on-september-23/
I’m fine with it and don’t mind!
@ryanboren I had a quick look at your mobile views. Indeed some stuff doesn’t render well at all. Tho, I was wondering if the focus on mobile use shouldn’t be on the accesibilty via the dedicated app, rather than the browser usability. I agree that responsiveness for mobile browsers is important, but first of all, regular users would use the app, right?
same goes for landscape mode...
@ryanboren I agree that the apps are not good, but what’s the app teams take on that? Don’t get me wrong, but from big guys like facebook and google it is mostly that they mimic the apps interface in their mobile version, rather than trying to squeeze the desktop interface into the mobile browser size. Therefore I believe ultimately the WP App needs to mimic the mobile interface, which means the app team should be considered in all responsive topics?
@kLOsk I talked to some of the apps team today. Alas, I didn't come away with anything definite. There is still uncertainty. From what I've read and heard so far, the apps will continue as they are for some time, focusing on fixing bugs and bringing feature parity. The apps will, for the foreseeable now, use the UI conventions common to their respective platforms (hamburger on Android, bottom button bar on iOS). I'll encourage some information sharing on make/mobile.
@smckeown how about hipchat as an alternative to gitter, if we still have to switch: https://www.hipchat.com/
I'll be documenting mobile and media UX issues on make/flow. Kicking things off with the top left of the logged in front page. Images and media to come. https://make.wordpress.org/flow/2014/09/30/toolbar-menus-on-touch-devices-nexus-5-4-1-alpha-20140930/
Thanks for all the research @ryanboren, looks like a mess, but great to start having a sense of the scope. I've updated my wireframes with some notes and a slightly more detailed walk through of editing some images. I also like what @sonjanyc did with the contextual actions - seems like a winner. The accordion on the right in my set is based on similar ideas.
Are we meeting on Thursday? Or Friday?
Today's agenda:
- Brief catch-up
- Review of mobile experience
- Tickets to open on trac
- Creating the feature-plugin on Github
- Thinking about a modal-free workflow (image editing in the editor)
- WCSF
ugh
Gitter changed that from 6. to 1. :(
@kLOsk hipchat isn't an option right now. We're looking into other options. Let's stick to Gitter until we have something definitive from the project
let me know if I missed anything
mhm in this interview scott bolinger states 80% of mobile use is done via dedicated apps :-/